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Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by Arkhos94, Feb 4, 2019.

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  1. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Do it inside one of Mary's Repeaters and Reset isn't an option.
     
  2. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Addressed in the FAQ, TAtroopers now explicitly allowed to use the TA order in a fireteam as long as the TAtrooper is declared the Team Leader.



    Look at the pictures, dude.

    If your target's 180 marks cross ANY PART of your Silhouette, they have LOF. Even if that LOF would normally be blocked by terrain.
     
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  3. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    I did! Accept my exquisite painting ;)

    If facing is DIRECTLY AWAY from the wall (red), it's possible to gain LoF w/o getting in the Facing Arc, from both sides. You're not guarding any corners there. If you faced the wall at a sheer angle, you'd be guarding one corner, but not the other.

    Only if your facing is TOWARDS THE WALL (white) or at an angle shallow enough to cover both corners with the Facing side, then you're guarding both corners of the wall.

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  4. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    OK, yes, in that specific example you'd be screwed.
     
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  5. BLOODGOD

    BLOODGOD Vampire Hunter

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    You were probably just writing his in a short way, but discover + discover is only forbidden against a single marker. You can still discover + discover against two different markers.
     
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  6. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure there is a consensus reached pretty quickly in that thread. Triangulated Fire allows you to make a BS Attack. Surprise Shot is a BS Attack. Ergo you can Declare Triangulated Fire and benefit from Surprise Shot Mods.
     
  7. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Although you're just asking for someone to Cautious Move into your back arc if you face the wall like that!
     
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  8. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully you have buddies covering that angle
     
  9. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    After that was a discussion in our community that escalated very bad and the rules aren't definitely RAW written, I would appreciate it to get an official answer if somehow possible. Neither IJW nor Psychoticstorm gave a statement for that, therefore the state seems unclear, even for CB
     
  10. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    A conversation with one person who continues to have problems understanding the interactions is not an escalation. Sorniak is the only one with issues. The other conversations are about other rules and making sure it doesn't fall apart. Which it doesn't
     
  11. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Done (in each spoiler)

    Can you sum up the problem for me ? I'm in holidays and lack a bit of time to read new rules post

    Corrected
     
  12. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    There really isn't a problem. Just a thread from a couple months back with one person not understanding a straightforward interaction of rules and FAQs
     
    #152 DukeofEarl, Apr 13, 2019
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  13. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    You posted the FAQ entry for CCing in a ZVZ against a 6S trooper as solving a different question (CC from behind, no ZVZ). According to what @ijw just posted in another thread, that might lead people to the wrong answer.

    Basically, it now seems that:

    If in ZVZ, no BS attack allowed.
    If not in ZVZ, BS attack allowed.
     
  14. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    Please, if you don't mean it's a problem, it's your meaning.

    Surprise Shot is a short skill and Triangulated Fire is a long skill who has as a part of the skill an Attack.
    The question is, can this attack from the Triangulacan be a Surprise Shot or not.

    This is the FAQ entry
    Are Skills with the BS Attack label considered to be BS Attacks or other Skills when declaring a Coordinated Order? For example, could a Coordinated Order be made where one of the members declares Surprise Shot, another Forward Observer and a third troop shoot with a rifle?
    They are considered to be BS Attacks, so can be combined in a Coordinated Order.


    Edit: let you time and have a nice holiday
     
  15. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    @Arkhos94

    Is it literally only the Hackable trait that has to be revealed when a trooper in Holo1 steps into an enemy hacking area? Or is it what programs can actually affect the target? Discussion here.
     
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  16. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Ok so the FAQ doesn't bring a definitive solution to this problem, I put it back in the unsolved list

    Both problem added to the list, please correct me if necessary
     
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  17. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    That's not my understanding. The FAQ addresses ZVZs and did not touch on anything else because it wasn't necessary. I don't think being able to shoot someone with SSL2 coming from behind was ever in question.
     
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  18. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    This. The situation in the open hasn't changed in any way, so isn't mentioned in the FAQ.
     
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  19. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    As mentioned multiple times in the original thread, Triangulated Fire allows you to make a BS attack (a short skill in it's own right so the argument of "nesting" is already dealt with)
    • Allows the user to declare a BS Attack with one of his BS Weapons against a target within LoF by making a BS-3 Roll, ignoring all other applicable MODs (Range, Cover, Special Skills such as Camouflage, TO, ODD...).
    Surprise Shot is a BS attack (further confirmed by your quoted FAQ entry) ergo it can be done.
     
  20. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    IMO the question is unsolved.
    Our Judge yesterday forbid it yesterday and that was totally legit cause you can read the interaction between the rule and the FAQ in both ways.
     
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