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So... N4 Hunh?

Discussion in 'News' started by AdmiralJCJF, Aug 4, 2019.

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  1. deltakilo

    deltakilo Bear of Butcher bay
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    My only regret is that I have but one like to give. I agree.
     
  2. deltakilo

    deltakilo Bear of Butcher bay
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    Sorry I wasn't aware we had decided on how to nerf. I must have missed that bit. If Nox SMG didn't go up in points yep I'd take it if it didn't have ammo types. However every single one of those you said that is a forward gunfighter would lose its spot. I'm not taking dart with regular ammo for 34 points. Zencha isn't seeing play. Airborne ranger is a much much harder sell. Andromeda too. We dont agree so I'll just say I don't agree and leave it at that.
     
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  3. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    What's the point of taking Patsy if her gun shoots rubber bullets? I don't pay 37 points just to have a HI specialist with fancy grenades. I'm not against changing SMG but if you do so, find another gun for her (someone talked about MULTI SMG).
     
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  4. deltakilo

    deltakilo Bear of Butcher bay
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    As for patsy being the cheapest orc specialist and that being why you'd take her. I have been playing since n2 days. And I have never... Ever seen someone take any orc specialist. So that's hardly enough of a close to fourty point model in Pano. Maybe locally you guys see more orcs as specialists. But it's not even close to my experience.
     
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  5. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    I play the AHD in my ORC teams in ASA as Nagas and Dart usually clean the midfield from infiltrated KHD and repeaters so she is free to move. But this is the only place ATM I'm playing her. In VIRD, Kamau does it better if it is just for objective grabbing and in NCA, I have lots of better AHD.
     
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    I'm of the opinion that if you're shooting a Jotum in cover with a Rifle, you should be just as out of luck as a Line Trooper shooting into -12 mods. If you can't hurt it, put in the effort to flank it or bring out a bigger gun.
     
  7. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
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    Exactly. Crits being only autohit would
    1. Give the player a bigger sense of agency instead of sence of being screwed over by dice
    2. Make ARM and AP weapons more valuable, making its cost justified and making AP into a viable alternative compared to DA
    3. Force people to bring specialized tools to deal with special situation, like that "Jotum in cover" one, instead of just spraying it with bullets in hope that something will give.
    You are right that it would affect dedicated CC units, but this can be deal with in other ways - modifying CC Burst, MA charts, etc - and we were asking to rework CC a bit anyway. I like the idea of CC monsters being good more because of their skills/weapons than simply high raw CC stat.
     
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  8. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Didn't you got the memo ? Players are bad rule designers so shut up and stop pointless wishlisting/improvement attempts to a game, which is sole property of CB.

    <I wish N4 brought back comic sans to forums>

    I did it ! I have comic sans!
     
  9. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Hi in an effort to make the various N4 related threads manageable and readable we decided to make one generic thread for all the generic N4 discussions please continue your conversations here.

    Thanks
     
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