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JSA Gut Check

Discussion in 'Japanese Secessionist Army' started by MikeTheScrivener, Apr 5, 2019.

  1. neostrider

    neostrider Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's needless or hyperbole. Oniwanban requires an unreliable roll and orders sunk into being in that position. Domaru ate a lot of orders to get into cc. Another other army just hits it with a ML.

    Since I'm here again consider this: bs attack link team bonus is 1 guy standing up making a buffed attack while 4 others prone in safety. Cc attack link team bonus is 5 minis piled on and exposed.
     
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  2. Dude

    Dude Lazy Bushi
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    Public service announcement:

    Do not dodge into melee with your oniwaban. Either accept the risk of a trade and declare an attack or stay the F away from template weapons and find another approach. Your dodge is only 60% effective. Don't trade away a strong chance to slay a tag for a smaller chance to survive the order.
     
  3. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    Yeah, and that's exactly the reason you HFT the Oniwaban. He's not going to take the risk of dodging for opposed rolls when he can just take the unopposed rolls at risk of dying.
     
  4. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, could not resist :wink: Surprise Attack counted for Shinobu.

    Active Player
    72.00% Oniwaban Shinobu Kitsune inflicts 1 or more wounds on Valkyrie, Elite Bodyguard (NWI)

    Failures
    28.00% No success
    Reactive Player
    97.43% Valkyrie, Elite Bodyguard inflicts 1 or more wounds on Oniwaban Shinobu Kitsune (Unconscious)
    78.20% Valkyrie, Elite Bodyguard inflicts 2 or more wounds on Oniwaban Shinobu Kitsune (Dead)

    Failures
    2.57% No success
     
  5. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member
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    To be fair berserk, total immunity and nbw is an unprecedented combination that is honestly retarded
     
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  6. Dude

    Dude Lazy Bushi
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    Turns out everything has a counter or an exception. Who knew?
     
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  7. Xeurian

    Xeurian Well-Known Member

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    Just shoot her.
     
  8. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member
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    I know, i was pointing out it was dumb for cc, its not like this is something with odd and full auto or something.
     
  9. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    One of the points in the thread is, these profiles did not exist in this form some months ago. Shinobu was the uncontested queen of close combat.
     
  10. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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  11. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    Some weeks ago, Shinobu had a great chance to also kill the opponent. Don't get me wrong, I'm not that stupid to take on a melee specialist with Shinobu, but it is a good example on how rule these additions little by little weaken existing sectorials.
     
  12. Dude

    Dude Lazy Bushi
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    Or strengthen others...
     
  13. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member
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    Id have to give it to the pupnik + chimeras if we are allowed to choose a unit entry vs single trooper
     
  14. grampyseer

    grampyseer User of the "ignore" button
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    I will agree that this example proves that JSA has been weakened in the games where Shinobu attempts to gank Valkyrie.

    But this engagement is already a “6 whisky” scenario for me, and by that time I have worse problems.





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  15. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant
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    Valkyrie has some challenges initiating combat though. For her to get smoke support, either Massacre or Pupniks need to be close. If that's the case, things are already pretty dangerous from a combat perspective anyway.