Wrong. Zuyong is an optimized profile, but Hospitalier and Riot Grrl are a different beast. They directly cheat the points system and exploit a bad designed rule. It seems people forget the 2 points less in Zuyong's PH stat and the -1 ARM. On the other hand Hospitallier and Riot give up on nothing, abuse frenzy and get stats upped an extra gear/weapons with no costs, and in the case of Hospitallier with a point discount. That's not optimization, that's insulting players. As a matter of fact: the Hospitallier profile is a unit that has been in the game since the very first day, even before the 1st edition rulebook in a time when we used to play with a small booklet of ultra simplified rules featured in each starter box. In all these years the Hospitallier profile has remained exactly the same until now, excluding some minor differences like original profile was MOV 4-2 (like all the 1st ed HIs) CC 16 (usual stat value pre 3rd ed era, when a ninja was CC 17 for comparison) and the 6th sense lvl 1 the Hospitallier had int he beginning. The cost of the unit with MULTI rifle and AP ccw was 48 pts and that's counting the frenzy discount. In 3rd edition it dropped from 48 to 37. And post third offensive from 37 to 35 while getting the AP weapon upgraded to DA for free. On the other hand other HIs like Orc and Brigada, also original units, have remained the same during all this time. Same stats, and more or less same cost. It's not that they are bad but that anything else looks bad when compared with units that abuse the frenzy exploit. That and well... the Hospitallier is a very special snowflake that represents how the conception of MO by PanO players is a complete utopia. Or you know… why not directly fix the root of the problem? There must be rules that allow impetuous to affect link members instead of just ignoring it AND frenzy must kick in the same moment it's triggered. Nothing of that stupid rule of frenzy not triggering until the beginning of the players next turn.