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Druze Bayram Security Observations

Discussion in 'Druze Bayram Security' started by Reece, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. Reece

    Reece EI Aspect
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    Yes. Unless your second skill is Reset.
     
  2. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    This is a friendly repeater not an enemy I am referring to.

    Just want to make sure there is no confusion.
     
  3. Reece

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    Correct. An enemy hacker in range of your repeater could use a hacking program targeting any of your hackers but suffering firewall mods (except killer hackers).

    There's a SWEET set of diagrams in the rules section laying out lots of scenarios.

    EDIT:
    Here's the link: https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/hacking-area-an-illustrated-story.433/
     
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  4. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    My observation on the Druze Bayram Security list is that for some reason Jethro/Knauf isn't an option!
     
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  5. Reece

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    Well, one of them is dead and the other no longer works for them. ;) But yeah, I was also surprised.

    I wish Senor Masacre would have been an option.
     
  6. Flipswitch

    Flipswitch Sepsitorised by Intent
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    Surprised LM is there, he doesn't really feel like he belongs other than he tends to be available to everyone I guess.
     
  7. ijw

    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    The suggestion is that Jethro can be used as the Mimetic Sniper Druze.
     
  8. Drayton

    Drayton Well-Known Member

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    Brawler Sniper > Druze Sniper
     
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  9. Reece

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    I'm not 100% convinced on that... MSV2 in a link is pretty sweet though.
     
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  10. Harlock

    Harlock Well-Known Member
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    Hello!
    I wan't to play wirh rhis list:
    [​IMG] IL1──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 [​IMG] SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER undefined. (1.5 | 74) [​IMG] [​IMG] SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Lanzacohetes Pesado / Arma CC AP. (1.5 | 57) [​IMG] [​IMG] SCARFACE Escopeta de Abordaje / Pistola, Arma CC. () [​IMG] [​IMG] CORDELIA TURNER Fusil Combi, Chain-colt, Cargas-D / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 17)[​IMG] SAITO TŌGAN (Operativo Especialista) Fusil Combi, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC EXP, Cuchillo. (0 | 40)[​IMG] ARMAND (Visor Multiespectral N1) F. Francotirador MULTI, Nanopulser, Minas Antipersona / 2 Pistolas Breaker, Arma CC Shock, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 45)[​IMG] DRUSO Teniente (Visor X) Fusil Combi, Chain-colt / Pistola Viral, Cuchillo. (0 | 23)[​IMG] DRUSO Ametralladora, Chain-colt / Pistola Viral, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 29)[​IMG] DRUSO Hacker (Disp. de Hacker Asesino) Fusil Combi + Pitcher, Cargas-D / Pistola Viral, Cuchillo. (0 | 25)[​IMG] VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Disp. de Hacker UPGRADE: Expulsión) Fusil Combi + Pitcher / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 21)[​IMG] BRAWLER Fusil + Escopeta Lig. / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 16)[​IMG] BRAWLER Médico (MediKit) Fusil + Escopeta Lig. / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 20)[​IMG] NASMAT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)[​IMG] NASMAT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3) 5 CAP | 299 PuntosAbrir en Infinity Army

    What do you think?
     
  11. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    Based on what I have learned regarding repeaters and hackers in fireteams I am not willing to put two hackers in one fire team.

    Killer hacking devices are scary and I want to be able to use mine without getting my other hacker dead.
     
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  12. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    I my earlier idea for a while and came to the conclusion that the peacemaker was likely not doing anything more than Being Cool.

    So with that realization I replaced him with a hukazanut FO which gives me a nice skirmisher that can push buttons and only becomes a repeater if I want him to be one.

    In the shuffle I managed to throw in a heavy rocket launcher into my main link and create a Duo for the assault hacker and doctor. This leaves only the hukazanut not in a fire team in group one.

    The second group is for utility drones that can slot into the main group after I take my first casualty.

    [​IMG]
    Heavy Druze Team cheap assault hacker
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    GROUP 1 9 / 1
    SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER . (1.5 | 74)
    SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57)
    SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. ()
    CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29)
    DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)

    GROUP 23
    KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  13. theGricks

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    Had a game last night where I murdered a Steel Phalanx list including Achilles.

    [​IMG] Druze Bayram Security
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] ARSLAN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36)
    [​IMG] DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] CLIPPER DRONBOT Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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    It was a lot of fun. The large hacking net made it very tough on Achilles, and the MSV2 sniper got free shots on him while he tried to reset and murder the midfield units. He killed a Hunzukut, and Peacemaker before the Haris'ed sniper knocked him out. The Pathfinder bot snuck up behind a wall from a thorakitai link, and Gomoz spotlighted them....the smart missle bot did the rest, leaving only one alive in the link (a LRL Thor). The HMG Druze pasted a long range Spitfire Myrmidon (link bonuses and the extra damage actually helped!). Arslan took care of a AD Diomedes with a 4 shot, DMG 14 Shock Multi-Rifle. All in all Druze are brutal, and fun. I need to make some modifications to the list but I love it.
     
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  14. Reece

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    I got a second game in tonight. Capture and Protect. Major victory.

    Peacemakers are stupid good. I'm finally figuring out how to get the best of them.

    Scarface and Cordelia are also VERY good. She got to move up for free and even fixed my Peacemaker while Scarface was rampaging.

    I definitely prefer the Smart Missile Launcher on the Clipper. Ignoring cover AND getting AP from the template is great. I think it was @xagroth preaching this earlier in the thread.

    I ran a 10 man list just to see what I'd do. I skipped on Brawlers and just added more Druze. After losing the Clipper on a "trade up" (three Briscards), I was able too just reform a 5 man link with the extra dude. With all the link flexibility, this may be something I build around.
     
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  15. Todd

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    I've got a problem with Bayram, and it's the feeling that there are too many auto-includes (at least in my mind).

    Specialist Saito is a beast (had him retrieve three Civvies all by himself on a total of two separate runs in a game of Rescue last night). Peacemakers are just too damn useful not to take at least one. Hunzakut are a fantastic FO choice, in an army lacking many options. Scarface and Cordelia are so much better (and more fun) with their new rules.

    I end up always taking the above, leaving just enough room to tweak my core fire team. :grinning:
     
  16. barakiel

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    Well if it helps, I haven't taken Scarface + Cordelia yet, nor a Peacemaker. Hunzakuts will be in every list, but that's the nature of Camo Infiltrators. Saito is great too, but his points can buy a lot of other great options as well. For a list with a small roster that is built around only one Core link choice, you sure can build a DBS list out in some interesting ways.
     
  17. McNamara

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    I think this is pretty much my go to:

    [​IMG] Toraneko Mercenary Service
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40)
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ARSLAN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36)
    [​IMG] DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    The HRL Brawler is easily switched out for a GML and a Hunzakut plus Warcor is exactly a ABH or a second Peacemaker. This leaves lots of options to try and test out and fine tune, but has a solid core to master. Luv it!!!
     
  18. Reece

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    Anyone else feel SWC starved in this army? I've been trying to cram in a nice Haris link, for when I'm not running Scarface, but I'm always 0.5-1 SWC short when everything is said and done.
     
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  19. sorniak

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    That druze 1 swc DEP guy is strange (should be 0.5 swc MAX , in my opinion). Why druze with panzerfaust has no swc cost? Veeeery strange design.
     
  20. jfunkd

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    The biggest SWC sink for me is in the Druze harris profile. When I try to fit that one in I always end up crunched on SWC.

    Also when I put scarface in I feel the SWC burn, him and the Druze harris don't like each other much.

    Another minor contributer is the amount of hackers I want to take with this repeater coverage.
     
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