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Denested Skills and Guts

Discussion in 'Access Guide to the Human Sphere' started by Superfluid, Oct 6, 2020.

  1. Superfluid

    Superfluid Welcome to Svalarheima

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    So a long while back I posted this:
    https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/does-the-guts-rule-do-enough.1183/

    TLDR : It was me griping that Martial arts / remote presence / valour all contribute to making the Guts roll hardly ever matter.

    Now that skills are de-nested, I wonder exactly how many profiles weren't gifted courage as the profiles were converted.

    I noticed that Joan of Arc doesn't have Courage now, which I think is better as Religious is the more interesting rule anyway (even if less tactically advantageous). Previously religious + courage from any source = non interaction. Religious was just a flavour thing with rarely a mechanical impact.

    Because I've not been keeping up to date with the game's new profiles and am woefully underknowledge on factions outside the 4 core main human ones, has anyone noticed other profiles losing courage in the n4 profile conversion?

    It could be that the Joan thing is a bug and they didn't actually intend for her to lose it- I hope not though.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. SpectralOwl

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    It seems like all troops previously benefiting from Religious Troop and Courage at the same time for whatever reason have lost Courage. A quick scan of Yu Jing and PanO didn't reveal any other cases of the skill being removed in those factions.
     
  3. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Rasyat, Taryot, and Kendrat. There may be more.
     
  4. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Joan is not a bug. You shouldn’t be seeing any unit with both Religious and Courage (ignoring Inspiring Leadership, and the Maghariba Guard has already been reported as a bug).

    Shaolin Monks (and Liang Kai) lost the Courage that they used to have from Martial Arts, while most Warbands with MA lost Stealth instead.
     
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  5. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    @Mahtamori points out that a few Morats have courage - are they bugs?
     
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  6. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    Nah man, they're monkeys -- it's the exrah who were bugs!
     
  7. toadchild

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    I believe you mean Japanese Oni, sir.
     
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