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Dahshat Haris fireteams

Discussion in 'Dahshat Company' started by Space Ranger, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I love the ability to mix the core fireteams, however with Haris, one of them must have the skill, so you must have a Brawler, Odalisque, or Zuyong with Haris skill. The rest of that team can be more of the same troops or a Wildcard trooper. Below are what I think will be great Haris teams, depending on the mssion.

    Brawler Haris
    I think a good addition to this guy is Brawler MSV2 Sniper and then a ABH sniper. I think a pretty good defensive team for missions where you need to defend area.

    BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 21)

    Odalisque Haris
    Again a good defensive Haris due to the Odalisque having Sixth Sense 2 or 360 Visor but also the NWI keeps it shooting. But also a good offensive with pushing up to objectives.
    ODALISQUE (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    ODALISQUE Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 30)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 21)

    ODALISQUE (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    ODALISQUE Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 30)
    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24)

    Zuyong Haris
    Possibly my favorite due the Zyuong just being good by itself. Gromoz really benefits from the Tinbot B and the team benefits from TacAware. The third guy I think depends on your points.
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)

    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)

    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    ZÚYǑNG Lieutenant (AutomediKit) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1 | 39)
     
  2. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    Till now I came only up with an aggressive Zuyong Harris

    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    ZÚYŎNG (Number2) Combi Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 28)
    ZÚYǑNG (AutomediKit) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (2 | 39)
     
  3. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    I personally love the Zuyong HMG Haris as well. B5 HMG is always nice, even without the +3 Core bonuses.
     
  4. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I like the idea of the Zuyong Haris. I face the Wu Ming Haris in Ikari pretty regularly and it does great work.

    Ideally with the Zuyong Haris I'd have the HMG, obviously the Haris guy, and potentially a specialist. I do think there are some good wildcards in there but really I'm just thinking the Zuyong FO could be a great choice? That said, I also think a shotgun could be great and there are other good specialists in Dahshat like the Hunzakuts.

    Perhaps a good compromise, mind, would be Miranda Ashcroft with BSg. She's a specialist, she has a nanopulser and obviously the shotgun, and she's got a degree of protection against CC troops. Only weakness is vs a template attack where I'd preder a Zuyong but a CQB ODD gunfighter could kick ass in that team.

    Dahshat Company
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    ZÚYǑNG HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 23)
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    SFORZA FTO (Holoprojector L1) Viral Rifle + Adhesive Launcher, Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 28)
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]5 [​IMG]3
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)
    LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    (it is legal in ITS it's just being daft about using REMs because it doesn't recognise the Dozer as making the Traktor legit)
     
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  5. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    I really like Haris teams with:

    1) a HMG
    2) s specialist
    3) a BSG

    It's like the triforce for me. That said, I actually did this:

    I would play this
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    McMURROUGH 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Templar CCW (AP + DA). (0 | 32)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    ZÚYǑNG Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (2 | 36)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    112 Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 12)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)
    ZÚYǑNG Lieutenant (AutomediKit) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1 | 39)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    The Haris team and Core team are in different groups because ideally I'd spend an order from group 2 to buff the Rui Shi in group 1. You could put Valerya in the Core team, but that would mean activating the team to give the Rui Shi AF puts my other members in danger of beign shot for free. The Zuyong ML could be another HMG as well, but I like the idea of having an ARO guy out there with the 112 at the ready.
     
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  6. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Also can we talk about this as a possible second group

    Because holy crap

    Dahshat Company
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    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)

    2 SWC | 100 Points

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  7. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I like your thinking. It's useful to have that second group flexibility I find, where you can use the group to shoot, grab objectives or provide support. Putting a tacawareness Haris in group two also gives you that extra oomph for the Haris there. Definitely food for thought.
     
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  8. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    I feel you, man. The only thing I don't actually like is having the Lt. in a link I'd like to use for flanking. You can just use the regular HMG and remove something else to make space for a Ghulam Lt. but I'll test it first. Maybe it's not that bad.
     
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  9. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    @Solar do you take the Dozer Traktor Mule over two Fanous plus one Nasmat cause you want the Engineer?

    Edit: ment your first list
     
  10. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I like el dozer Traktor Mul because I like the 24pts for three regular orders but also yes absolutely I like having Engineers. If I run HI I always take an Engineer and plenty of other times as well. E/M is definitely a thing, having isolated and immobilised troops is a real shitter. Get an Engineer in there and it gives you options, plus 14pts is hardly unreasonable.

    Also I recently saw a certain individual spaffing themselves over that new Speculo with Minelayer and therefore yes I would like Minesweepers plz thnx.
     
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  11. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    Rui Shi point man means you want an Engineer, probably.
     
  12. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    If you're taking costly REMs with a purpose then an Engineer is also great, yes. I like cheap Engineers and the Dozer brings them. The Najjarun is a better Engineer and has the shotgun, but also doesn't bring the Traktors who are so cheap as to be silly in terms of regular orders.
     
  13. Ben Kenobi

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    Ru Shi will usually die in your first turn after she spread havok over the enemy troops or she is to far away to be repaired.
    But perhaps my playstyle with attack drones is to aggressive.
     
  14. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    But you can add up to 3 Fanous. But I know, you like your MS.

    Edir: or the Kameel
     
  15. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    Maybe, but I think that since you are getting the same amount of orders for the same points is not that bad to just get a specialist.
     
  16. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    A Fanous is all well and good but I like the Dozer because it also does the Engineer job, it's a useful specialist to have, and on turn three you may be very glad you have it. Also a big strength of the Fanous is that they're repeaters but Dahshat doesn't have a lot of aggressive hacking going on (no KHDs for a start) so they're less useful to me in comparison to the cheaper Traktor.
     
  17. Ben Kenobi

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    Was ment if you would take the Najjarun.
     
  18. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I do like the Najjarun a lot. It's not that much more either. Both are good options I feel. As is the Brawler because you can link it.
     
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    Dahshat Company
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    ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)

    2.5 SWC | 93 Points

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    This one is kind of a no-brainer i think now. Self-sufficient haris with 2 additionnal orders and the sectorial's 2nd best antihack solution (pitcher + blackout does wonders, but not being hackable in the first place is miles better).

    The only issue I see is that it's really tempting to ditch the haris and jut include a rui-shi and a cheap BH to make a dreadful core fireteam.
     
  20. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I'm starting to think, I haven't played it yet, that Gromoz would benefit more from a 5-man team. Giving her the +3 BS for the Pitcher & Sixth Sense.

    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    2.5 SWC | 117 Points

    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    2 SWC | 66 Points
     
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