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Discussion in 'Japanese Secessionist Army' started by Mahtamori, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. hortanium

    hortanium Major Thomas Williams, USAriadna Marine Corps

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    In the iOS app it looks like karakuri get the gizmokit and from the rules it doesn’t appear to need the engineer skill to use. If this is intentional, a Haris karakuri team can heal each other while murdering everything. Combined with the extra str, these guys have quite the buff.
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    "Gizmokit (PH=12)" indicates that they roll against BS12 when hit by another trooper's Gizmokit, they do not possess one themselves.
     
  3. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    Oyama, Daiyokai, FO looks pretty good to me. Haris with 5 useable orders (Tac Aware from Oyama and NCO on Daiyokai).
     
  4. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    Even up to 6 orders when the spitfire lt2 domaru is somewhere on the board. Talking about orderefficince. An 5 orders in a duo.
    Daiyokai might find its way in a lot of my lists.
     
  5. Kumatake81

    Kumatake81 Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't TacAware break the Link since its an Irregular Order?
     
  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    It's got a special extra rule that says "In addition, if the owner of this Special Skill belongs to a Fireteam and is designated as the Team Leader, this Order can be used to activate the Fireteam"
     
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  7. hortanium

    hortanium Major Thomas Williams, USAriadna Marine Corps

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    The gizmokit is listed under karakuri as equipment, while the o-yoroi lists it as a skill, that’s what I’m basing it on
     
  8. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    That would technically be a bug because there's no Gizmokit skill. I based my answer on the last bullet point of the Gizmokit rules:
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  9. hortanium

    hortanium Major Thomas Williams, USAriadna Marine Corps

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    Time to report it in bugs so CB can tell us what they mean.

    Having looked at a few TAG profiles now, the one’s I’ve checked list gizmokit under skill, like the o-yoroi. The karakuri are the only one I’ve seen to have it as equipment, besides engineers. That final bullet point doesn’t negate having it as equipment and having it used on them, it only states that the bracketed PH value is used. Doesn’t mean it’s not a bug, especially with how strong it could be, but it could very well be intentional. Hopefully we find out soon.
     
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  10. Kumatake81

    Kumatake81 Well-Known Member

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    Why would the gizmokit on karakuris be a bug because it is listed under equippment?

    I think it is like:
    Listed under equipment: you have the gizmokit, and everything in brackets applys
    Listed under skill: you do not have the gizmokit itself, but if one is used on you the brackets apply.
     
  11. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    It’s a bug. Karakuris do NOT have GizmoKits.
     
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    Use the Multi Marksman Rifle for Heavy Targets that are usually not getting B2 in ARO except the handful like the Daiyokai himself.
     
  13. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Since dual wield doesn’t appear to be a thing anymore, Neko having 2 distinct CC weapons, means he just selects which one he wants to use any time he makes a CC attack, correct? Contrast this with Musashi who has a single AP+EXP weapon whereas before they both had dual wield and AP and EXP weapons.
     
  14. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    That’s correct, but his EM CCW is arguably nastier than AP+EXP!
     
  15. solkan

    solkan Well-Known Member

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    Presumably they figured that the AP+EXP combo was better represented in N4 with DA, and the option of E/M. :flushed:
     
  16. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    EM CCWs are nastier than AP+EXP.
     
  17. Kumatake81

    Kumatake81 Well-Known Member

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    Are Karakuris immune to Para Amunition? So they can't get Immobilized by them?
    Are they immune to FO as well? Because in the trait it says: State:Targeted and Immunity makes you ignore that?
     
  18. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Yes and yes.
     
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  19. Quickit

    Quickit Well-Known Member

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    Sad face. Figured it was too good! I was just imagining a Haris of 3 Karakuris moving up the table and stopping every few minutes to fix each other up.
     
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