1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Hemos actualizado nuestra PolĂ­tica de Privacidad acorde con la nueva RGPD. +Info // We've updated our Privacy Policy to comply with the GDPR. +Info
    Dismiss Notice

Yu Jing White Banner Army

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Zerooness, May 6, 2019.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    2,789
    Likes Received:
    2,139
    Oh I know. They would need to change Shaolin for sure. Which I'd like. My thought for them is to make the Irregular+Tactical Awareness. TA instead of Impetuous. To make them a link team they would need some other sort of tweek, like the special Hulong having a level of Inspiring Leadership, making whatever fireteam he is in, Regular.
     
  2. Bohrdog

    Bohrdog Santathematics

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    288
    Do the Operation boxes get rotated out like the army boxes do? If they do Icestorm could rotate out and new PO/YJ box could take it's place.
     
  3. chaos11

    chaos11 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    697
    Likes Received:
    900
    They haven't yet, but they will presumably at some point (they did mention they'd like to do Svalarheima/White Banner as a 2 player box).
     
  4. Maksimas

    Maksimas Maxi

    Joined:
    May 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,696
    Likes Received:
    1,342
    I hope that doesn't happen too soon.

    I'd still like to be able to grab the entirety of Icestorm still.
     
  5. chaos11

    chaos11 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    697
    Likes Received:
    900
    Unless the one this year has a faction from one of the previous ones, I imagine it'll be a while before they phase one out. If they did YJ vs PanO, I imagine both Icestorm and Red Veil would go, and RV is 2 years younger than Icestorm.
     
    Maksimas likes this.
  6. Zerooness

    Zerooness Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    16
    Have you a source to state your statement that they mentioned it? i know its likely but pls tell me where you saw it.
     
  7. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2017
    Messages:
    6,146
    Likes Received:
    9,643
    It was in one of the Q&A sessions at a convention, but I couldn't tell you if it was at GenCon, AdeptiCon, or even Interplanetario.

    It certainly makes sense thematically, and would even allow an expansion/update of the hostile environment rules for extreme cold etc.
     
    chaos11 and Zerooness like this.
  8. atomicfryingpan

    atomicfryingpan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2017
    Messages:
    559
    Likes Received:
    1,043
    It was at a q and a at gencon last year
     
    Section9 and Zerooness like this.
  9. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    2,789
    Likes Received:
    2,139
    I think Carlos said it again at Adepticon too.
     
    chaos11 and Section9 like this.
  10. HANGMAN

    HANGMAN Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2018
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    8

    I'm hoping for the same, been saying that for some time as well. Would love a dragon transformer TAG.

    Lets see a foo dog hunter/killer REM.

    I'd also like a Robotech Cyclone HI bike (shoulda been with IA).

    A cheap camo unit, in the 20 point range.
     
    Henshini likes this.
  11. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,403
    Likes Received:
    2,664
    That's what a Ruishi is.
     
    Dragonstriker likes this.
  12. HANGMAN

    HANGMAN Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2018
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    8
    Close combat focused. Rui Shi definitely is not that. I should have been clear.
     
  13. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2018
    Messages:
    521
    Likes Received:
    653
    Both Lu Duan and Rui Shi are named after those dog/lion things respectively.

    I doubt we'll see a CC based REM any time soon. Yu Jing just isn't a CC-focused army. We pay the tax for it, but we're not remotely near the top of the pile for it, and it's hardly an element of our identity anymore.
     
    the huanglong likes this.
  14. Furiat

    Furiat Mandarin

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2018
    Messages:
    237
    Likes Received:
    329
    Maybe they'll address this problem in N4 by either removing cc bonus and decreasing costs or by making our cc relevant again.
     
    HANGMAN likes this.
  15. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    7,928
    Likes Received:
    9,840
    Almost all REMs are decent at CC and the non-martial artist in Yu Jing best at CC is the Zhanying. They all roll 7, which might sound like an average result for a CC15 trooper, but they won't ever miss and they also prevent opponents from increasing their CC or PH through Martial Arts, etc, plus 2-turn duration IMM is pretty damned harsh. I'd put them on a level roughly on par with a Shang-Ji, tbh, and absolutely worth while getting into melee as a reliable delaying tactic.
     
  16. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2018
    Messages:
    521
    Likes Received:
    653
    Electric Pulse tarpits are definitely useful tools, but it's still not something you could consider a CC specialization. Moreover, most of these are freely accessible to most factions as it is, it's not like it does anything to make Yu Jing uniquely competent in CC.

    Although Zhanying are just freaking cool in general.
     
  17. Azuset

    Azuset Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2018
    Messages:
    574
    Likes Received:
    231
    After listening to Carlos's reply to a question about the CC tax in the cancon video. I dont think so.
     
  18. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    7,928
    Likes Received:
    9,840
    You mean the one where he was asked what it'd take to reduce Zhanshi's by 1 point without elaborating on the CC value at all and he completely evaded the question?

    I wouldn't read anything into it at all. If anything, I got the impression that they've got something else planned (that might directly or indirectly affect Zhanshi) and he would be caught dead than give it away.
     
    Azuset likes this.
  19. Teslarod

    Teslarod Trebuchet Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    1,655
    Likes Received:
    3,403
    Pretty likely they'll overhaul a lot of the point formula to address issues.
    +1 CC =10% price increase for Linetroopers, basic HI underperforming, basic MI underperforming, Warbands/Smoke/DTW&SMG as main armament too good, Skills/Equipment being too good/bad...
    A lot of that can be improved on by simply changing the pricetags for basic statlines and increasing the cost of synergetic addons to them. The Hac Tao is probably priced correctly but the Shang Ji should be cheaper. The Zanshi as an Order Monkey should probably remain 11 points (or maybe even 12), but should get more useful stat budget or an extra piece of gear to make up for it rather than +1 CC.
    CB seems to agree on baseline MI being bad and I really hope they're not trying to fix it in any way similar to FD1. A fix like that mostly makes the already good ones better and keeps the mediocre mediocre.
     
    #239 Teslarod, Jan 29, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2020
    inane.imp and Mahtamori like this.
  20. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2017
    Messages:
    1,659
    Likes Received:
    2,831
    Fur coat Zhanshi when?
     
    Stuffist likes this.