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YJ TAG Slicer gone - time for some hardcore monks...

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by yuefei, Mar 5, 2018.

  1. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Rather than new units these new freatures on ISS could be new link options ( please make normal pheasnt able to haris with baos...), specially for Wu Mings ( mixted haris with missile remote, or with out it). The mercenary porfiles are fine making the sectorial more flexible apart of what core did you take (kuang shi cheerleader, defensive with CG, agresive with CG and crane, pain train with Wu Mings or agresive/defensive Baos)

    3- Agree wirh you @Mahtamori. The only thing that trouble me about ISS is the Sophotect, SHE IS TOO EXPENSIVE. Well the problem is not the porfile by iteslf, it's just we don't have an alternative to get a cheerleader m/e like in vanilla or JSA. And even if she is good you can't use it very agresive like for example a tomcat beacuse the cd11 and AVA 1. I don't know maybe it's me but i prefer to go without it and have the 31-37 points free that having a expendive cheerleader just im case.

    And speaking about anti tag options, we have less but i'm very fan of shotgun Su Jian. ( My anti Avatar dude, also in vanilla).
     
  2. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Also coming to the OT making a Shaolin character ( like an upgraded version of Shaolins for 20 points more or less to don't be a must) with high CC skills or monofilament will be a good and cool idea.
     
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  3. mittenninja

    mittenninja Invincibles NCO

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    @krossaks @Mahtamori guys, ISS has 5pt regular orders with ava8. A 31pt super specialist is not anywhere near too expensive.
     
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  4. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Not to mention 6-4 for long cautious moves, oh and crazy high WIP and NWI...
     
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  5. Hjiryon

    Hjiryon Well-Known Member

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    The existence of Kuang Shi does not change the fact that the only way to field an engineer or a doctor in ISS is a 31 point model, making its inclusion in a 300-point list a rather big swing in how the list will end up looking.

    The Sophotect is easily worth the points, that's not the issue. The inclusion of, say, a Celestial Guard doctor profile would open up some very different possibilities (actually, the CG are linkable, making that even better - but any baseline doctor would be great).

    That's not to say I'd stop taking the lended Aleph doctor-engineer, but in some lists, it might sit out in preference for the cheaper, if slightly less powerful, option.
     
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  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Sophotect is good and worth the points, but she's also a faction weakness. Too many points and too many unique specialist traits in one basket. And unlike Hospitaler, she is a terrible fighter.

    You can't safe-guard with trash-tier Doctor/Engineers the way most factions can (nor have Haqq's happy-accident Doctor/Engineers) forcing you to commit to a different playstyle than simply pressing buttons that my Tokusetsu used to do.

    If this situation is good or bad design is a different subject.
     
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  7. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Yes i know, it's a bit blame for blame but i truly prefer the cheap and exanable doc/eng x).
     
  8. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    You really need to try to build some lists.

    Not very fun trying to build ISS lists back in the day for Paradiso missions.

    Stupid model can only be in one place at a time, too. Helperbots? still not as good as taking a pair of Tokusetsu or Zanshi.
     
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  9. mittenninja

    mittenninja Invincibles NCO

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    I've been playing ISS since N2, building lists is something I've done plenty of.
     
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