Now, now, just because he's been compared to a monkey is no reason to call Ian Brown "fairly ugly". It can be very hurtful to say things like that. He's not made of stone, y'know. Really, He just wants to be adored. No. They have a reason to be indignant, not a right. Were I a Yu Jing player, I would certainly be indignant. I am an Acontecimento player... but I'm not indignant about the *vacation* the faction is taking. I am a bit ticked off that my Montesa is no longer playable as a Montesa. I'll get over it. I'm more ticked off that my game about Black Ops and shooting is turning into a game about Wizards Hackers dueling.
I'm an Australian videogame nerd. I still think Uprising's dumb. Infinity has always had strong internal consistency given werewolves etc., but Uprising ignored several key constants of the setting. Particularly, Yu Jing usually functions as a counter to PanO hegemony, and the minor factions' survival hinges on playing the two powers off against each other through diplomacy, trade and underhanded black ops. By robbing YJ of 10% of its populace and industry and allying it with PanO, the Nomads and Haqq created a serious imbalance; PanO fleets are able to attain air superiority in nearly all of Yu Jing. From what I can tell, only the Combined threat is keeping PanO from overrunning the entire Sphere at this point. That is why I think Uprising is dumb, because PanO just won the cold war that the setting is based on, and only fiat and a common enemy is keeping the status quo intact. It's still better than my own feeble attempts at writing a wargame though, so I'm still here complaining about it. Infinity's very good ruleset excuses a whole lot of fluff weirdness.
just because you suspend disbelief doesn't mean you should ignore logical or narrative inconsistencies within the fiction's own rules and setting.
Then be honest and just say that you're upset that your favorite faction is losing the fictional war.
Particularly when you're invested in a faction, and those inconsistencies have them painted as both terribly incompetent and despicably evil. Feels bad. Edit: I do feel like the Uprising-era arguments are getting rehashed now (on both sides). I mean, y'all are welcome to argue all you like, but I feel we're really just running in circles at this point. Hasn't this played out yet?
It's actually important in fiction like this to have characters with motivations and actions that are comprehensible, as otherwise you have characters doing things that don't make much sense in a setting that's unfamiliar to us, so there's no way to get invested.
Nope. The only fluff blurb under Tai Sheng's entry is an interview with her. Doesn't give much insight into why they're being interviewed, just some spiel about space China isn't perfect but China still numbah 1, Pan-O sucks.
I have more Nomads than Yu Jing. Most of the Bakunin sectorial in fact, I really like the more professional law and order branch like the Moderators and Taskmaster. Doesn't make the fluff any more or less dumb, and Uprising's is simply not consistent with other released material. I'm usually over here in the Yu Jing forums because when the community gets into problem-solving mode there is a lot to be learned, and because YJ's heavy infantry was what first drew me to Infinity. It's also why so many of my posts on other threads end on questions or thoughts; positive thinking and problem solving is the fastest way to get useful results. Welp, thought Tai Sheng would be a source of interest. At least Ko Dali seems to have a major role. Yu Jing characters best characters! Other teams keep poaching them because of their inherent Yu Jing awesomeness!
Well it's a little rough when players are made out to be suckers for having supported them irl in the form of a portion of their minis being prevented from being allowed to be played with each other.
When said Spanish anime nerd arrogantly declares his writing is so perfect that anybody that dares criticise it should read it "and learn some new words." you can bet from now on, probably until long after I stop playing Infinity, I will take the opportunity to bring up any mistake he makes in his prose. Because it clearly gets under his skin when people point out he's not actually as good as he thinks he is (i.e. a real author) and that's just funny. I honestly didn't even give much of a crap about the Uprising on the fluff side of things until Gutier was stupid enough to say that. Now? Well clearly he made it a challenge and I know I'm not alone in that mindset.
This thread's topic is essentially "Please Recap the Last Six Months of Rage". It has played out, we're doing it again live for @BarbeChenue. Is this 11-page thread an adequate summary yet? :D
I reference the business degree usually when I'm criticizing CB's business practices. I brought it up this time because I studied International Business, which means understanding the relationships between nations. I've tried to write, I'm a lousy author for anything longer than a single scene. But writing for a fictional setting means you can look at each country as a character. A rather sociopathic character that doesn't really care what happens to the other countries, at that. 'Uncle Nic' Machiavelli said it: countries should always act in their own best interests. While this doesn't happen all the time, it's an easy idea to grasp. Or at least it was to me. It still needs to follow it's own established internal logic! Yes, I can suspend disbelief of wormholes. CB's do actually work in a way consistent with our understanding of physics, barring the whole loop thing (which I will write off to authors not being physics nerds). Also, semi-plot drive. Most of our stories take place inside a single system. "I suspend my disbelief" has been earned and respected. Aliens (and werewolves, given the in-universe explanation of them)? There are two choices in the universe: either humanity is all alone in the night, or we are not alone. Either one is terrifying. While the aliens in Infinity aren't really alien enough, each major race has defined goals, personalities, etc. again, "I suspend my disbelief" has been earned and respected. So very much this. The Yanjing (YJ's intelligence service) was so competent that it made PanO completely discard their old intelligence services. That's fluff from the founding of the Hexahedron. And yet, they were so incompetent that they somehow didn't notice a single individual organizing all the mercenary support for the Uprising on short notice (fluff piece specifically says, "within the next 6 months"). The old 'strategic calculus' said that PanO = YJ + Nomads +Haqq. It's described multiple times that Nomads and Haqq rely on YJ's support in the O12 to keep PanO in check. I'm leaving Ariadna out of that equation because both PanO and YJ pick on Ariadna. During the Uprising, PanO, Nomads, and Haqq all ganged up on YJ. Now, you can expect PanO to always pick on YJ, just like the US and USSR always were at each other's throats during the Cold War. If Haqq and Nomads are also ganging up on YJ, that means Haqq and Nomads are reading the situation such that the loss of Greater Japan doesn't particularly weaken YJ. But PanO's actions are such that the loss of Greater Japan greatly weakens YJ. Both of those cannot be correct, they are mutually exclusive. And when you're talking actions equivalent to Russian planes intercepting American planes over a seceding California, well, that's straight-up evidence that YJ is too weak to do anything about it. YJ is a Great Power, has nukes and equivalent weapons of mass destruction. You DO NOT start a shooting war with another Great Power when they have the capability to destroy your entire country! And that's what PanO was doing there. That should have been massive escalation. Would have been massive escalation in today's world. And yet nothing. No mention of YJ threatening to pull back forces on Paradiso (minimum response I would have expected), no mention of YJ putting a cruiser of PanO territory on Earth or other shared territory for some gunboat diplomacy, nothing. (This is where having either military or International Relations experience would have really helped CB)
This is so on point :D :D I think it was pretty rough that Bostria quoted you. I don't think he was genuinely replying to you as a person, but reacting to the general sentiment of some of the vocal unhappy yu jing players. which is not the best move.
The more I think about it it seems more like responding to a single person but using the bully pulpit so they don't have to face a response.
I have seen a couple opinions here that leave me completely flabbergasted: 1) it's ok if the guy whose job supposedly is to get you to buy his stuff is disrespectful to their clients, because they started it!! 2) it's ok if you can't known if you will be able to use the stuff you buy for its intended purpose because they are artists (lol) I don't know which one of those I find absurder, there are some people here who are really drinking the Kool Aid. Like, REALLY. Please, if it was GW doing this people would be in Nottingham with pitchforks and torches.
And this here is the problem. There is still obviously an open wound CB didn't bother to treat (in fact Bostria just throws salt on it because it's great to be your high school's class' funny guy even when you are supposed to be professional)
Na they wouldn't, the fanboy is strong in both situations. They discontinued nerfed or otherwise messed with things enough to stop me from playing their games however.
Showing the dead bodies is not how you disappear people. As the guy quoted and given a 'funny' shitpost in response to a serious request for information, what I heard from that post was, "hahaha, Fuck Off." If I had tried that in the Navy? I would have been up on charges. And I was in Subs, where the tolerance for extreme behavior is much wider. (Seriously, go watch Down Periscope. I served with every single one of those personalities. I can usually name multiple different people for each role, too)
