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Why do we have 5 very samey heavy infantry?

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Mahtamori, Jul 31, 2022.

  1. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    That's what I'm saying. It's clearly a heavily modified slug-firing HMG modified for high-burst close-quarters gunfights, based on his time fighting in spaceship corridors (or whatever you want to justify it).

    Qiang Gao's gun is modified enough from the standard model that we can do whatever we want and whatever is necessary with it.

    Nope. No way. Not while he can still join fireteams. Keep that B6 crap out of Infinity.
     
  2. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Can't the Kriza Boracs do it already?

    EDIT: With Mimetism (-3) no less.
     
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  3. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they can. And that trash needs to get the hell out of the game, too.
     
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  4. Ariwch

    Ariwch Tournament benthotic lurker

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    MULTI Heavy Shotgun!
     
  5. Amusedbymuse

    Amusedbymuse Well-Known Member

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    E/M ccw has both e/m and normal ammo.
    So as long as bts and arm are equal e/m weapon ia superior to what jing qo has, it deals same damage plus isolation plus immobilise on heavies. Heavy HI tends to be 5/6, after ap arm and bts saves the same. Most standard tags are 8/6 so e/m has better chances for damage with statuses on top.
    6 point morlock is stupid good.
     
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  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Breaker Heavy Shotgun or GTFO
     
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  7. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    EM causes 2 x 1/2 BTS save and the normal ammo causes a pretty normal ARM save. I see that this will put a em-vulnarable trooper quickly into a statue but the loss of W or STR is just a normal roll. In CC this is dangerous but not as dangerous as two times half ARM.

    But I agree that can take a troop out of the game without killing it outright ... just later ;-)
     
  8. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I believe the E/M CCW still causes a wound with the E/M part of it. So a max of 2 woulds+Isolate & Immobilize.
     
  9. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    That's N3 EM CCW.

    In N4, E/M means the weapon is DA, AP and causes target to be isolated. Normal means that any failed saves causes wounds. The weapon itself says all saves are taken against BTS.
    It's quite literally the best CC Weapon in the game, and yet still not the most expensive. It only misses the anti-materiel trait that DACCWs have, but thanks to ADS of AC2s and similar this is much less useful to have.
     
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    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Edit: if I could read, I'd see you already answered my question!
     
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  11. Weathercock

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    Man, I've been doing things wrong for the entire edition.
     
  12. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't be for that either but what if it was a MULTI-HMG!? Hell, a multi is not even as good as a Shang Ji since It's AP OR Shock instead of AND. It would still be cool. It would then have the EXP in ARO.
     
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  13. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    Multi HMI would just jack up his point cost even further with next to no benefit.
     
  14. Furiat

    Furiat Mandarin

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    Maybe additional +1 dmg for his hmg. That would be unique and not too expensive.
     
  15. Weathercock

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    He already has BS Attack (+1 Damage). Doesn't make him any less crap.
     
  16. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I mean with no point increase of course.
     
  17. Furiat

    Furiat Mandarin

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    Won't additional +1 stack?
     
  18. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    That's just cheating the system then. Either fix the system that requires such workarounds, or find a better solution.

    It would. It also wouldn't help fix his problems.
     
  19. archon

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    Multi HMG recquires a S5 chassis with stabilisators and all that fancy stuff that a Yan Huo brings to the table without beeing a TAG.
     
  20. Space Ranger

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    Tell that to the Shang Ji who already has Shock or AP+Shock. One of the reasons for taking SJ over YH. Would it be that much of a difference to have AP OR Shock and EXP?
     
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