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What's good in Svalarheima?

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Zsolt, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Svalarheima’s Winter Force
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    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER HMG / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 39)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Lieutenant MULTI Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 35)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 35)
    ORC HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 44)
    ORC (Fireteam: Haris, Mountain Terrain, Climbing Plus) Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 39)
    VARG (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower, WildParrot / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 26)
    VARG (Forward Observer) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
    QUINN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    LIANG KAI Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    6 SWC | 298 Points
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    My take on this.
     
  2. Nomadimp

    Nomadimp Well-Known Member

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    I really, really like the vargar and wish I could figure out a good list with a 5 man core of them but they really seem better as a Haris or solo. Very toolboxy but can’t really handle active turn of aro by themselves.

    The problem is that I can’t really figure out what to support them with, especially in aro. I’m loathe to rely on flash pulse bots because I run into a lot of total immunity. The standard TR bot might be the best bet?
     
  3. Reece

    Reece EI Aspect
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    It's been confirmed that up to two Orcs can join any Core Fireteam (the note only shows up for Fusiliers and Orcs right now). So that may be something to play with to experiment with Fireteam composition.
     
  4. Rebel-187

    Rebel-187 Well-Known Member

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    Well... I give you a third option with Orc Feuerbach Core, Hospitaler HMG Haris and Karhu Akimbo Feuerbach Engi Duo

    Svalarheima’s Winter Force
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    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER HMG / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 39)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Lieutenant MULTI Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 35)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Doctor (Fireteam: Haris, MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 36)
    ORC Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
    ORC Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 35)
    QUINN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    KARHU 2 Feuerbach, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 38)
    KARHU Engineer MULTI Rifle, Blitzen, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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    You can switch out the FO Fusi to a standard and change the Feuerbach ORC to an HMG Orc
     
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  5. Rebel-187

    Rebel-187 Well-Known Member

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    And another 2 just for fun Lists

    Strange ORC Core and Nisse Haris
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    KNIGHT OF JUSTICE Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Heavy Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0.5 | 51)
    ORC HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 44)
    GUNNAR MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, Trench-hammer, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 38)
    ORC Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 35)
    VARG (Forward Observer) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
    NISSE HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
    NISSE Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    MAQUINISTA (WinterFor) (CH: Mimetism, Multiterrain) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

    5.5 SWC | 297 Points

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    ODD Bitches!!!.... and Sensor Net
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    LOCUST Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 35)
    LOCUST (Marksmanship L1) Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 33)
    NØKK Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 35)
    NØKK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23)
    BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23)
    VARG Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 28)
    VARG (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower, WildParrot / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 26)
    VARG (Forward Observer) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  6. Crusader

    Crusader Well-Known Member

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    Just an FYI / IMO: you have 0,5SWC and 3 pts left, why not make the BSG ORC a BSG+Tinbot ORC? Your Knight hacker would benefit from that really well.
     
  7. Kilroy

    Kilroy Active Member

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    One could also consider replacing Quinn with the Infirmarer to have a medic in each linkteam. Nice list. Subtle as a brick, but I like it.
     
  8. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    Is there an actual fireteam list for WinterFor somewhere? Or is i dropping soonish? I was always told you should take the notes in army only as reminders and not the definitive rules.
     
  9. Crusader

    Crusader Well-Known Member

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    ARMY is the definitive rules right now for Svala.

    Also I don't know anyone noticed it but they removed the Fireteam:Haris skill from the ORCs' general skill and it is only available on the special profiles.
     
  10. Jobenheim

    Jobenheim Rookie Heavy Infantry enthusiast

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    OH NO MY SWF LISTS ARE FU-

    No, wait, they moved it to a separate Loadout for 0.5 SWC & 45 Pts.
     
  11. Crusader

    Crusader Well-Known Member

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    That loadout was there before, but it was redundant because every ORC got the Haris skill. Now they restricted it to the dedicated haris profiles (at least those are the tin bot versions)
     
  12. Jobenheim

    Jobenheim Rookie Heavy Infantry enthusiast

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    That's... weird, to say the least. Why take a decent, easy-to-play HI and take its most useful skill away?

    Though, on a second note, one could still take 2 ORCs in a Varg Haris for a very good offensive piece.
     
  13. Sungwon

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    Orcs can only join fireteam:core, so I think it is impossible if you meant a haris with two orcs and a varg :(
     
  14. Crusader

    Crusader Well-Known Member

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    They didn't take it away completely, just restricted to loadouts. Perhaps having the HMG/Feuerbach ORC a Haris enabler (for free) was too much:thinking_face:
     
  15. Jobenheim

    Jobenheim Rookie Heavy Infantry enthusiast

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    Oh yeah, you're right. This is still possible, though:
    Svalarheima’s Winter Force
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    VARG (Forward Observer) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
    ORC (Fireteam: Haris, Mountain Terrain, Climbing Plus) MULTI Rifle + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 45)
    ORC (Fireteam: Haris, Mountain Terrain, Climbing Plus) Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 39)

    2.5 SWC | 109 Points

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    But this doesn't look like the best option for running a HI-focused SWF list.
     
  16. Crusader

    Crusader Well-Known Member

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    This is also legal luckyly:

    Svalarheima’s Winter Force
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    ORC (Fireteam: Haris, Mountain Terrain, Climbing Plus) Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 39)
    VARG (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 26)
    VARG (Minelayer) K1 Marksman Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 30)

    1 SWC | 95 Points

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  17. Jobenheim

    Jobenheim Rookie Heavy Infantry enthusiast

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    Could you explain the use of Antipersonnel mines in such a Haris? Me being a newbie, I'd take a Nökken or two for them instead of a Varg.
     
  18. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    If this can help, I made those diagrams for the French community in order to help everyone insterested in SWF to understand which FT you can make and which ones are illegal (they are in French but I don't think you need to speak French to understand them):
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    Note that only 1 KoJ can be a Wildcard trooper.
     
  19. Crusader

    Crusader Well-Known Member

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    It is for the K1 MarksMan Rifle not for the minelayer ability. Rangebands and ARM killing potential (but mostly the range bands).
     
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  20. Jobenheim

    Jobenheim Rookie Heavy Infantry enthusiast

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    Ah, this makes perfect sense now. Thanks!