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What would you like to seee in the shasvasti rework?

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by tokumei, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    FTFY. It's not a successor without an awkward name.
     
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  2. Bort

    Bort Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Wanna Get Off!

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    Lol we can never have it all unfortunately
     
  3. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    The Aswang was named by the Pacific Islander troopers that first fought them, naming it after a type of vampire, CB being a Spanish company probably didn't realise how unfortunate the Anglicised version of the name is until it was too late! It could be that one of the troopers on the list is the Aswang going by its EI/Shasvaasti name.

    Now, about the Kum...
     
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  4. Melkhior

    Melkhior Doing filthy things for EI

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    I really like showed profiles, but I don't know what to think about sectorial table. Some unit AVAs are weird. Tensho experts and Gwailos are AVA 1 and it is very rare AVA for units in sectorial army if we don't count characters (yes I know some S5 HI and so have also AVA 1 in sectorial). I hope it is mistake and their AVA is higher (but if it is really their AVA I can live with it). Other thing that bugs me is that at the first glance only mentors and probably Seeds (if they still have camo on their seed emryo) are units with camo that starts in the deployment zone (I know we can downgrade Noctifers to camo, but hidden deplyment is better). One explanation would be that other units have camo and non camo loadouts, because Mentors potecial without other deployment zone camo units is lower (to mask other camo units and creation of misdirection) and Shas will be worse deception army than TAK and vanilla Ariadna.

    Maybe @Bostria or @Koni can confirm that sectorial table from video is correct.
     
  5. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    On the other hand, the nox solider is very interesting. While bioimmunity is pretty useless, having both stealth and zapper is really interesting. The nox are line troopers with a credible threat to expensive HI/TAG units.

    While the midfield camo spam might be weaker with Shas, they bring some nasty tricks of their own, including the dread and pretty unique Speculo Killer.
     
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  6. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Bioimmunity means that shock and viral don't bypass their seed embryo state. It lets you eat a Mine and still contest a table quarter.
     
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  7. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Bioimmunity assures that they'll stay around as a Spawn-Embryo, which might be useful for any kind of area control missions. Stealth and Zapper should play really well together.

    I'm interested how the Seed Soldiers will work now.
     
  8. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    I'm torn. On one hand, the Aswuang was my favourite profile in the game. I hope it sees a return in some capacity on one of the new profiles.

    On the other hand, the mad bastards finally gave combined army nimbus plus. Hot damn. Dodge my sepsitor at -6.
     
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  9. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    *Laughs in Ariadna*
     
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  10. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    *shakes fist*
    Stupid, cubeless ariadna!
     
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  11. Melkhior

    Melkhior Doing filthy things for EI

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    Some other interesting things:
    Speculo killer dossier contains mines - is it error or update for them? loadout with mines would be great
    M-Drone AVA 2 and special fireteam - maybe this is indication we won't have MSV?
    Nox with smart sniper rifle - basically this is almost today Haiduk so he will be different (stronger sapper sniper?, camo sniper? other changes? really hard to tell.
    T-Drone special fireteam - I expect to see new loadout with normal missille launcher like in other sectorial armies that have this option.

    I also hope that Nox troops are not our only fireteam core option and we can still take at least one other core fireteam (Calibans and Gwailos if we consider that AVA is incorrect in the table).
     
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  12. Tickle Monster

    Tickle Monster Active Member

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    The cutthroats sound like someone you want on your team. Lets hope they are as badass as they sound. I am also curios as to what a Tensho expert is. It seems that specula agents are not going to be a thing.
     
  13. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Messer is an Agent.


    thats what 2x Heavy Flamethrowers are for.
     
  14. Melkhior

    Melkhior Doing filthy things for EI

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    I think many people (me included) thought that Speculo Agents will be new unit similar to Speculo Killer , but specialised on shooting (something like Kiuutan Impostor).
     
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  15. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Anyone else think the Taigha Creatures logo looks kinda like a xenomorph egg?
     
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  16. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    Yes, exactly that.
     
  17. Bort

    Bort Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Wanna Get Off!

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    Something I find myself being disappointed in with the Nox is that I wish they had 0 arm 3 bts instead of 1/0. Feels like a missed opportunity to make bioimmunity feel relevant. It actually feels like a more useful ability on shasvastii if they keep their racial rule the same
     
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  18. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    While I still question if bioimmunity is worth making your basic LI 14 points, it is more useful for Shas to have. Point taken. That said, Vox are far better than seed already. I wonder what seed troopers will become. Maybe they become an infiltrating unit.
     
  19. Bort

    Bort Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Wanna Get Off!

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    100% better than seed soldier, i agree. They don’t have reduced stats from a basic line troop to still be too expensive anymore. That alone is enough for me
     
  20. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    Combined isn’t getting a core line troop for less than 14 points. It’s just not going to happen.

    The DTW and combi makes for interesting tradeoffs with Vanguards and Unidrons.
     
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