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What will 2019 bring?

Discussion in 'News' started by RogueJello, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    They do but presumably allied G-5 troops are a core part of that. And I'm sure that a big part of it is also the threat of economic and diplomatic consequences.

    But my idea is more that the 0-12 does have battlefield capable troops but those are in the games more accurately represented by elite troops, 20+pt cost guys. Their line trooper role in the game is taken up by special police.
     
  2. Pen-dragon

    Pen-dragon Deva

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    I haven't read up on the O-12 fluff, but arn't they kind of UN-y? Their troops are basically troops on loan from member nations? What if O-12 was just a couple of 'mercenary' LT options available to all vanilla human factions? Add in the O-12 LT to a faction force, and suddenly you have an O-12 force? It would need some nice bonuses, either externally, or baked into the mercenary LT profile to compensate for the problem of 'obvious LT'. Just a crazy idea.
     
  3. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Not quite, O-12 has Concilium, their own planet, and people can be a citizen of O-12 (though their population and birth rate are both low.) While they function as a UN equivalent they have far more of their own resources. They're also the ones with ultimate custody of Aleph, whose main processing banks are located on Concilium.
     
  4. Padre

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    I don't think the Big Black N (tm) is a campaign book. Carlos sells it as something big that requires an unusual amount of effort. All that hype doesn't add up to 'just' a book. I mean, from the business point of view how important would a campaign book be for CB? Is it a huge investment? Is it risky? Would it matter if it failed? Not really. Besides, a campaign isn't exactly a new way of playing Infinity, is it?

    It's hard to step back, detach yourself from what you'd like it to be and think about what makes most sense. I wish it was a new streamlined and cleaned up edition. I wish it was a 3-5 model skirmish with RPG elements. I wish it was a 10-15mm Epic Infinity game. I don't think it's any of these. Right now my bet is on either "Infinity 40k" (larger battles, more models, vehicles) or an Infinity board game, something like Black Fortress or other Warhammer tie-ins. Think about it: plastic models usable in Infinity, rules for using regular minis in the board game, mechanisms based on the Infinity ruleset. Actually, damn, I wish it is exactly that, so I may have not detached my hopes completely :P
     
  5. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    I see a board game as very likely.
     
  6. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    I can see the argument for a board game, but they just pushed one out, I doubt they're going to do a second so quickly.
     
  7. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    On the other hand, Aristeia!'s big push is done and they're apparently slowing the releases this year, so this would allow the Boardgame team more time to work on a second game.
     
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  8. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    It’ll depend on exactly what Bureaus are included, beyond just Aegis. Toth? Noir? Hermes? Athena? Should be interesting.
     
  9. gregmurdock

    gregmurdock Extremely Beloved Member

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    Something Shadespire-esque or cooperative dungeon crawler seems most likely.
     
  10. Section9

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    Works for me, though many US police have an AR15 instead of a pistol-caliber carbine/SMG. I think that's a bad idea for police because an AR's bullet travels a lot farther downrange than a pistol-caliber bullet, endangering more bystanders.


    No, O12 explicitly has it's own forces.
     
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  11. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    Yeah, O-12 explicitly have their own forces which are supposed to be "elite" even by the standards of the rest of the high-tech Sphere.
     
  12. oldGregg

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    Sounds like competitive 5 order lists to me.
     
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  13. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Nah, 6-8 models, lots of Strategos, LT2, NCO, and TacAwareness. About like IA.
     
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  14. Kakino

    Kakino Desconfiando de Aleph

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    Apart from Big Black N (the new way to play Infinity), Corvus is developing a new game not related to Infinity universe for 2020, so I think that a total independent board game for this year wouldn't not possible.
     
  15. chaos11

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    Where's that come from? I think that's the first I've heard of it.
     
  16. Kakino

    Kakino Desconfiando de Aleph

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    That was said in a spanish podcast (from August 2018), in an interview to Belen Moreno, Head of Marketing and Communication of Corvus Belli (it's in spanish):
    https://www.visludica.com/podcast/belen/
    Basically she said:
    -For the end of 2019, product related to Infinity / new way to play Infinity (black N in the showed schedule).
    -For 2020 a new product with a new brand will be released, not related to Infinity, she said that it's a product that lot of people wants that Corvus bring out to the market and that they already gave us some clues (according Bostria, it seems that it won't be a Fantasy game nor Battleships game).
    -They are working in a new comic based in Infinity world, no release date.
     
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  17. chaos11

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    Ah yes, I think I remember reading that now. Thank you!
     
  18. SmaggTheSmug

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    Maybe the Campaign book comes with a board game/starter attached. Notice how recently they have released a few more Spec Ops models, despite the format being rather unpopular? I had similar feelings about the Outrage box and missions, how it was a prelude to revamp mercs and voila, Druze Bayram released later that year.
    It's probably a big overhaul of the campaign system and may include a box with miniatures and terrain. Taking a potshot at the one thing GW can claim over CB in the skirmish department, a detailed campaign system.
     
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  19. daszul

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    They revised the rules, maybe? Couldn't you call that 'an unusual amount of effort' from their side? :speak_no_evil:

    Yeah, CoC and Wildcards.
    Low AVA units that bring goodies like CoC, NCO, ... and can form a special fire team core with certain units from other factions.
    And I really like the idea of the Multi Pistol. As all Multi weapons got a stun setting as well that really fits a police/security force. Always the right tool (ammo) for the job at hand...

    The O-12 pillars: Unity, Cooperation, Support, and Progress.

    Bureau Aegis
    Section Statera (legal branch, lawyers)
    Section Spatha (O-12 military, tactical police force. If the lawyers from Section Statera can't deal with the problem this “Team Escalation” is send in.
    => Line Troops as tactical police force (AVA total)
    => Team Escalation as MI or HI
    => [Knights of Santiago and Imperial Service secure the Circulars, technically under the jurisdiction of Bureau Aegis]
    Psi Unit (Military Intelligence, technically part of Section Spatha but with a largely independent chain of command.)
    => TO Camo Infiltration (FO, KHD, AHD, Minelayer, Smoke)​

    Bureau Agni
    Section Metis (research and development, working closely with Bureau Toth and ALEPH on experimental technology)
    => Engineer (Duo with REMs) (AVA 1)
    => standard REMs (ALEPH)
    => TAG​

    Bureau Athena
    Section Clio (chronicler of ancient and recent history, search for truth, religion, ethics, humanism)
    => Warcor+ (AVA 1)​

    Bureau Lakshmi (human health, medicine)
    => Doctor+ (AVA 1)​

    Bureau Noir (secret service)
    => Operative: Impersonation, Sniffer (must have a Handler in Army)
    => Handler: Counterintelligence (AVA 1)​

    Bureau Toth (supervision, support, and maintenance of ALEPH)
    => HD+, Jammer, E/M2, Pitcher, FastPanda​

    Bureau Trimurti (support infrastructure, diplomacy and international relations)
    Bureau Concilium (governmental body)
    Bureau Gaea (planetary development and biological research)
    Bureau Ganesh (oversees international trade and economic practices)
    Bureau Tiandi (mapping and exploration of the wormhole network)
    Bureau Hermes (management of commerce and the Circulars, inter-system communications)
     
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  20. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    My line of thinking is that when we think "Police", is a unit that's very lightly armed (typical EU level of weapons is pistol and baton) but at a level of escalation more similar to what you see around certain metropolitan areas in the EU since after Paris (which means body armour and SMGs in addition to the pistol) with certain tactical gear in limited numbers as appropriate to the task at hand (and now we've taken it one step further and we're talking about SWAT gear, but still not full military with FMJ assault rifles - we're talking SMGs, shotguns, marksman rifles, possibly snipers)
    Typically a strong lean towards Shock and Stun ammo rather than AP or DA. It would be very interesting to have an exotic shotgun with Stun ammo instead of AP ammo at this level instead of the standard boarding shotgun.

    For full military grade stuff you'd call in a different section/bureau.
     
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