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What to expect from o-12 Noir?

Discussion in 'O-12' started by Redfaint, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    On the other hand, Bostria said that Bureau Noir is the sectorial he'd most like to see, though he has no control over these decisions.
     
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  2. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    I did note that his other comments were about Sectorials for "different parts of SwordFor" and Bureau Toth.

    And I'm still feeling pretty confident that we'll get a high-ALEPH Toth sectorial over Noir.
     
  3. FireFangs

    FireFangs Space Oni

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    Toth is a lot easier to do than Noir. Have a mix of ALEPH and O-12 units to watch them. There's an event in the RPG you can get where your Geist (personal "AI" that everyone has almost from birth) becomes an Aspect of ALEPH. They can build on that.
     
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  4. daszul

    daszul Well-Known Member

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    And it fits the story: Their job is to enforce the 'single AI rule', so fighting the EI is part of this after all!
     
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  5. Skyhusky

    Skyhusky Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to see Noir able to access all the named mercenaries as "operatives" That would be..interesting.
     
  6. FireFangs

    FireFangs Space Oni

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    Isn't that list relatively small?

    Side note: in the RPG, it's possible to play a Tohaa, Krakot (Not easy in social situation) or even a Helot. So that opens options if they ever do a Noir sectorial that way.
     
  7. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Let's see here, turning Mercenaries on and doing a sort by Character in Army gives me this list:
    Aida Swanson
    Avicenna
    Emily Handelman
    Father Sforza
    Hannibal
    Knauf
    Laxmee
    Major Lunah
    Miranda Ashcroft
    Raoul Spector
    Uhahu
    Valerya Gromoz
    Le Meut
    Scarface&Cordelia
    Musashi
    Senor Massacre
    Valkyrie
    Yojimbo

    19 total (counting Scarface and Cordelia separately)
     
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  8. FireFangs

    FireFangs Space Oni

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    Hmmm, that's not too bad. I don't know the stats, but that's a long enough list for a handler, I'd say.
     
  9. Skyhusky

    Skyhusky Well-Known Member

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    Plus, throw in Kappa's, or other o-12 "backup" units? Might work nicely.
     
  10. FireFangs

    FireFangs Space Oni

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    As reinforcement, perhaps. But for Noir specifically, if we go by the lore, they are elite teams of individuals. So nameless troops fits less.
     
  11. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    And here we are, right back around to "Noir as an Infinity army is a terrible idea".
     
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  12. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    give them some brawlers and other "generic" mercs, as the redshirts that eat shit at the beginning of the mission before the characters get the real work done.
     
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  13. FireFangs

    FireFangs Space Oni

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    It's far from a terrible idea, it's just hard to fit in currently. I personally would like it because it means new unique character as minis! More to paint and convert! \o/
     
  14. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    could see Bureau Hermes being a thing, maybe, depends how much peacekeeping needs to be done on the Circulars.
     
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  15. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    I would grab a page from Defiance here: the players can have "NPCs" (like Valkyrie) in their missions, so depending on the final Defiance list of human/Tohaa NPCs we could extrapolate the troops Bureau Noir might have available.

    Besides, I think it was mentioned the first sectorial for O12 was planned for August 2020 (so either after N4, of with N4), considering defiance would be for this christmas (at least the end of the Kickstarter should), we can take it slow.
     
  16. FireFangs

    FireFangs Space Oni

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    Yes, the Defiance team is pretty much a Bureau Noir team on a Noir mission. Highly skilled agents going on a potentially suicidal mission. Considering some of the premade campaigns available in the RPG, it suits perfectly.

    We do have much time to speculate. While I persoanlly want Noir for the many many unique characters it might create, I think this won't be the first sectorial.
     
  17. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    I'd expect Knights Santiago, Order Sergeants, and some Imperial SS troops, too.
     
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  18. Dixi

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    Sforza is too Toth to appear in other bureaus.
     
  19. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking sectorials will be more along the lines of deployments and theatres than the bureaus considering most of those bureaus seem like they'd call on Aegis (or NA2 mercs) for muscle.
    I.e. Calling O-12 "Aegis and Friends" wouldn't be unfair is what I'm thinking.
    I'd expect Imperial Navy, not the judiciary forces. I.e. Haidao.
    (Or for a real life analogy: why would the US send FBI and ICE agents to provide UN-led anti-pirate patrols?)
     
  20. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Because the military can't do law enforcement operations.

    When a US Navy frigate does anti-smuggling patrols around South America, they take on a "LEDET" (Law Enforcement Detachment, spoken "lee-det"), which is usually Coast Guard, but can also be DEA or FBI. The LEDET does all the arresting, but may have people from the ship's crew in support.