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What can we expect from Vedic

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Wyrmnax, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    You're aware that either shock SMG or viral bow will outright kill the fusilier if it scores a wound ?

    The "2 wounds" things is the way the dice tool express "killed by one wound causing lethal damages"
     
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  2. sorniak

    sorniak Well-Known Member

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    ooh...wow...well... it is so hard to outflank a guy. I don't know against whom you were playing. But whom are you going to shoot in back in middle line? A camo in a corner in prone surronded by mines? An odd locust? This is such a situational weapon, where so many good planets on a sky need to arrange for it to shine ;( In expirienced play - this is a very difficult weapon to use. With one die you can miss, your enemy survives attack and uses warning! rule - or we played wrong all the time?
     
  3. sorniak

    sorniak Well-Known Member

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    But you only need to shoot out of 16" and bow is on -6....on above 8" it has +0...I'd be psychologicaly happy to see that weapon in aro... Difficult to find a spot where no one can come to you more then 8" range...and if happend - they probably will have shotguns, or flameres or smth more scary then a bow...
     
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  4. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Total Immune troops sure as sh*t aren't immune to Viral.
     
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  5. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant

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    Not every ARO has to be a missile or sniper shot from across the table. If you're AROing with Dart, then she's either hiding somewhere defending herself, or the game is on the line and she's probably parked next to an objective attempting to defend it. Combining that Viral ARO with mines, Repeaters, etc. is a good way to make the enemy spend Orders picking that defense apart. Sometimes she'll definitely want to Suppress, but if the enemy forces her to Dodge (like rushing her with a Chain Rifle) it's nice that she still has a decent ARO that doesn't rely on maintaining Suppressive Fire. That's a big problem for the Ryuken-9... If you force her to Dodge, her value decreases. Dart has a decent backup option with the bow.
     
  6. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    Plus you can't really rush her with dogged/nwi troops (like highlanders) since all her weaponry is instakill (even her sword is shock). She's really a fine hunter for light/mid infantry/warband/sk
     
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  7. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    C+ makes or breaks the bow for Active Turn.
    As long as you are able to get an unopposed shot in +3 it's only better than the SMG against Shock immune NWI/Dogged Targets.
    That list is short and mostly Ariadna:
    Mormaers, Vet Kazaks, Greys, Rosie, Yadu (oh the irony) and (sometimes) Krakots

    Not impressive, but you do have some pretty decent odds at getting a silent kill with it. Which is much more likely to become relevant. An 80% chance unopposed shot that probably causes two instakill saves against BTS 0 is worth exploring.

    With BS13 & MSV1 the bow will see a lot of use in AROs <16".
    In Vanilla the shell game with Nagas is brilliant. As long as she hasn't revealed she could be a BSG or Hacker.
    She also doesn't instantly die to Mines or Koalas like a Naga would.
    ARM 3 vs Mines, Koalas, Red Fury, Sniper Rifles and extra value against Viral makes her multiple times more resilient than even a Dasyus or MK2 hacker against these common threats for a Skirmisher.
    Intuitive Attacks (except Flamethrowers) are something she can tank for the unopposed Viral bow ARO with a smile.
    Cheap trading pieces like Galwegians or Krakots don't do well against her.
    She Discovers Camo up to 48" away on 13s and on 16s within 8".

    I'm torn on wheater I like the Mines or E/M Grenades better. While the Mines are more likely to see use, she is already very effective in that area. C+ and PH13 make for one nasty E/M platform. Imposting the threat to Isolate/Immobilize troops in the midfield as well as a mobile, high impact template certainly is something that demands some respect.
     
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  8. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    I love Asura HD got the MULTI Rifle, but I hate the new design. So converted to look better! :)

    asura.gun.converted.jpg
     
  9. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    And results:
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  10. Cartographer

    Cartographer Well-Known Member

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    The E/M grenades upgrades her to a pseudo-Assault hacker without the vulnerability to KHD, a fair trade for mines IMO.
     
  11. Abrilete

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  12. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    I'm still hoping you can alleviate some of that volume by painting
     
  13. Arlic

    Arlic Active Member

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    Does anyone know, when we will get some information about the asura profile? Im really curious.
     
  14. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    Yeah. :disappointed: I was debating if I should try to file them down but I'm not confident in my skills to do it well.:persevere:

    But, in an interesting and good twist, yhe is quite tall and large overall. Once I build some of the Ariadna minis I'll show them side by side.
     
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  15. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    She's really tall?!?

    Someone light the @loricus signal
     
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  16. tdc

    tdc ALEPH Fragment
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    Ditto, however since my colour scheme is so dark I'm hoping to get away with a reduction by painting.

    Start building tonight!
     
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  17. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I don't remember revealing this information about myself but I cannot deny it.
     
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  18. RecklessPrudence

    RecklessPrudence Well-Known Member

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    Hm... I use a paint scheme with a fair amount of light/dark contrast. Would painting the bodysuit - and thus the breasts - one of the darker colours, and the side armour panels one of the lighter, achieve the opposite result? Somewhat minimising those things?
     
  19. SwordSaint8

    SwordSaint8 Active Member

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    First it helps if you color the shoulder and the hips in the same tone, so her breasts are in context with the rest of the body. The original paintjob causes an effect that is uitlised in the bodybuildig scene. Rotating the hips to the side adds volume to the thorax. So you don't wanna make her hips look smaller than they are.

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    It's somehow about the shading of the cleavage as well. Darkening the gap between the breasts while highlighting the boobs adds quite some volume to them. If you look closely at Angels paintjob you will see he did that too.

    So do the opposite. I did just a quick paintover to demonstrate the effect.
    Aleph Asura boobjob (2).png
     
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  20. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Tall Securitate lady

    Alt post: I work for the FSB, and I have infiltrated your base
     
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