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WB Haris options

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Space Ranger, Apr 7, 2020.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    So lets talk about the Tiger Soldiers little brother, Meows , sorry, Ye Mao. Right away i saw them as the Non-combat jump Tiger Soldier some wanted.

    He looses the BS13 down to 12 but gains BTS of 6. Then also to compensate for the BS he gets MSV1 on all of them.

    They all have multi-terrain, where the Tiger needs to chose combat jump OR multi-terrain. Not much of a choice i think.

    Weapon-wise I think a almost pretty strait trade off of combi+LFT to Multi-Rifle+Chain colt. but then also gains a Panzerafaust (basic profiles). CC weapons are pretty much strait off but they get a CCW instead of Knife. The AP sptfire i think is a pretty good trade off for not starting off in optimal range. For long distance It kind of depends, but I like super jumping missile launchers. Unfortunately I've always been on the bad end of them.

    For specialists I think the Ye Mao is great. Especially the BTS6 KHD. Also, he can really be put to advantage in a Haris wtih Shang Ji tinbot. (see below). I think the Engineer is a pretty good option too. But the FO can be good for some missions. There's only 4 troops with FO in White Banner.

    Just to show in comparison to the Tigers why I think they may have started off as being like them.
    YĚ MĀO MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 27)
    TIGER SOLDIER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)

    YĚ MĀO AP Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    TIGER SOLDIER Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)

    YĚ MĀO Missile Launcher, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 28)
    TIGER SOLDIER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)

    YĚ MĀO Hacker (Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 33)
    TIGER SOLDIER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)
    YĚ MĀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)

    YĚ MĀO Engineer MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 31)
    TIGER SOLDIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    YĚ MĀO (Forward Observer) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)

    The best thing about them in WB is that all of them come with the Haris skill. That can make for some interesting possible haris teams. Like i mentioned above, the Shang Ji Tinbot can really give the KHD or even the regular HD a good advantage.

    Anti-Hacker Squad
    YĚ MĀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    YĚ MĀO AP Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)

    Defend the Wall squad
    SHÀNG JÍ (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 42)
    YĚ MĀO Missile Launcher, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 28)
    TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Red Fury / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 27)

    Git er done squad.
    YĚ MĀO Engineer MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 31)
    YĚ MĀO (Forward Observer) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Jammer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)

    Anyone else think of some interesting combos?
     
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  2. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    I've been playing around with them too, but I always felt the Haris is very expensive. That KHD Haris is interesting, but it has no SSL2 to counter Stealth. And I don't think its worth paying ~1/3 of your army for three orders and that one hacking trick. It might be worth in a single game of Transmission Matrix, but there I'd rather play that 4x Zhanshi hacker link.

    I'll try out the missile launcher, but I'm not yet decided on who should be the 3rd member next to the obvious Tian Gou.

    So far, I used the Engineer as a semi-attack and repair guy. I want to try him with coordinated orders to Panzerfaust stuff with the new Long Ya:

    Coordinate that Panzerfaust
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    [​IMG]3
    YĚ MĀO Engineer MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 31)
    LÓNG YÁ 2 Panzerfaust, Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines / Electric Pulse. (0 | 20)
    LÓNG YÁ 2 Panzerfaust, Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines / Electric Pulse. (0 | 20)
    0 SWC | 71 Points

    But I don't like that anyone would shoot my Engineer and I cannot repair the bots anymore. And I cannot use helpers, well

    I'll try these out I think:

    Defense Haris
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    [​IMG]3
    YĚ MĀO Missile Launcher, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 28)
    YĚ MĀO MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 27)
    TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Jammer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    1.5 SWC | 80 Points

    Offence Haris
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    [​IMG]3
    YĚ MĀO AP Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    YĚ MĀO (Forward Observer) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Jammer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    1.5 SWC | 85 Points
     
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  3. tox

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  4. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it's worth noting that there are a few profiles that Tian Gou can't pretend they are; anything with a Tinbot, anything not S2, Lei Gong (Albedo is a state), and Yisheng/Gong-Cheng*

    * Without a Yaozao a lone support troop will look suspicious, which of course means you can probably anti-hide a Yisheng as a Tian Gou.
     
  5. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Well that's a little stupid since it is not Deployable equipment. There's still plenty of other things he can look like with them.

    I'm less enthused by the Shang Ji Haris. At least the SJ Haris trooper is pretty good but the choices to be with him are meh.

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    Hard Hitters
    SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    JUJAK Missile Launcher, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 37)
    JUJAK Spitfire, Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39)

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    Little bit of everything.
    SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    JUJAK Spitfire, Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39)
    TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Jammer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)

    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    Specialist firepower mix
    SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    SHÀNG JÍ Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    JUJAK Spitfire, Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39)
    8 SWC | 350 Points

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    Speicalist heavy
    SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    JUJAK Engineer Boarding Shotgun, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 36)
    TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
     
  6. tox

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    Well... Actually IT IS Deployable...
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  7. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Wait what? How the hell do you even deploy it and why? I'm guessing it's "Deployable" during deployment, to be put with it's owner. The FAQ below also says it's a non-target-able marker state so... Doesn't really matter. It's specifically says Tinbot so no you can't disguise as it.

    Edit: What's up with all of the new guys with MSV1 and Mimitisim or ODD?
    Jayth
    Karhu
    Hortlak
    Ye Mao
    Grief Operators
    Frontovik has one guy
     
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  8. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    First bullet. During the Deployment Phase, place the TinBot in base to base contact with its owner. This fulfill the Deployable trait.

    Anyway... MSV1 + Mimetism/ODD? Still far better than MSV2 + Camo...
     
  9. KestrelM1

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    It's an easy way to make a unit a good gunfighter without providing a faction more camouflage or MSV2.
     
  10. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    All true but also a bit of a lack of creativity.
     
  11. smog

    smog Well-Known Member
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    For some of them it stops the player from combining white noise and mimetism/ODD