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Discussion in 'Off-Topic English' started by ShaeKonnit, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    People really think they have the idea or the quick way to get rich – for real this time!
    It baffles me how so many of these people don't stop and think "Am I really the only person to come up with this?"

    A friend of mine thinks he's going to get rich trading penny stocks on some Ponzi scheme app. He tries to get other friends to sign up so he can collect bonuses. sigh....
     
  2. leigen_zero

    leigen_zero Morat Pacifist

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  3. ShaeKonnit

    ShaeKonnit Well-Known Member

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    I looked up that website to check if it was parody.
    Unfortunately not :/
     
  4. Pen-dragon

    Pen-dragon Deva

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    At the risk of being political, it is marriage itself that has become a parody. All government marriage should be abolished. If you are an active participant in a religion that has specific marriage rites, then by all means follow those marriage rites. But if you want to set up a government sanctioned tax shelter for you and your partner(s) and their dependents, set up a corporation. Governments should not try and define marriage, because they clearly have no idea what their doing.

    This post itself may qualify as a WTF depending on the readers political views.

    P.S. If it sounds like I am anti-marriage, I am not, I just think that a government trying to define who can and cannot get married, is like a bus driver trying to tell a chef how to do his job, without even asking what kind of food the chef makes.
     
  5. ShaeKonnit

    ShaeKonnit Well-Known Member

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    I have a fairly good rapport with the post office near where I work. And good thing,too - the ammount of time i'm in there!
    The main post office back in my home town, however... Absolute shite.
    I hardly ever use it except to pick up any post I've missed, but on those few times when I've been in, even if just to post a single recorded letter, it takes ages since every time they go through the whole script of if I need any holiday money, if I need any holiday insurance, if I need any home insurance, if I need life insurance, if I need a low-cost personal loan etc, et-bloody-c.

    My wife was in there just yesterday, to post a few packages for her business. The person at the counter actually got annoyed; "It's not ideal that you've brought so many packages since we're busy," they declared, refering to the 4 packages wife brought, "have you considered our drop and go service?".
    4 Packages?! Jesus, CHRIST what could she have been thinking?! I mean packages, for posting, in the Post Office; I've never heard of such nonsense!
    *tchoh*, I'll bet she expected them to deliver the bloody things, too. *tchoh*
    *tchoh!*
     
  6. leigen_zero

    leigen_zero Morat Pacifist

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    @ShaeKonnit Quite a few of my friends have done stints at the local post office, and they've said one of the best things about the job is how excellent a skive it is.

    I don't think people really get jobs at post offices for because they want to actually do any work
     
  7. Flipswitch

    Flipswitch Sepsitorised by Intent
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    Nah I totally get what you're saying here. The UK has Civil Partnerships and plenty of heterosexual couples have been pushing for them so they can be "officially" together without actually having the religious label of marriage in historic context. I completely agree with this as well.
     
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  8. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    As if we needed more corporations. Corporations should not have two things: armed forces and legal rights.
     
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  9. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    OK, we just passed a law that corporations no longer have legal rights.

    Your grandmother just had some nice gentleman show up at the door, saying that not only is her husband's pension plan bankrupt, but she is now responsible for $1.3mil of corporate debt. She has 3 days to pay.
     
  10. ShaeKonnit

    ShaeKonnit Well-Known Member

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    On corporations, I had long suspected that our sugar tax over here was more a quick way to raise government funds rather than out of concern for public health.
    So happens I have some connections with a guy who worked at our very own A.G Barr soft drinks company of Scotland, makers of the (in)famous, Barr's Irn Bru. When they heard about the incoming sugar tax, they put plans in motion for a Barr's Original range, which would contain the normal amount of sugar rather than any artificial sweeteners. This was on the assumption that the tax would simply be a % of every item sold by which they'd have to increase the price per-can.
    Not so...
    What actually happened was that if they wished to release such a range, the Gov'ment predicted how many they might sell over a certain time period and demanded that money up front. As A.G Barr doesn't have the sort of resources to conjure up the £10million+ the Gov'ment demanded, they just cancelled the plan.
    CocaCola, however, did pay and continues to do so.
     
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  11. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    Yes, I realize that there's an enormous double problem in both the corporations fighting tooth and nail for survival, and the drastic legal and social changes needed for such reform, that would take decades if we want to avoid societal collapse. No need to imply I'm mentally deficient.
     
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  12. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    I certainly didn't mean to imply that.

    But that example I gave is exactly the reason corporations exist as legal 'people'. It means that there is a separation between the owners of the corporation and the corp itself.

    If you're a sole proprietor or a partnership, you are responsible for all the debts (even those your partner(s) racked up without your permission!). You can lose your house, the car, even the ability to pay back the debts (say, your tools or other special things, like the IP).

    If you don't dissolve/change the partnership correctly, you may not have had any control over the company for years and still be on the hook for things that the partnership did. Which is what happened to a friend of mine (he left, the partnership didn't file the paperwork, and about three years later he had collectors after him).
     
  13. solkan

    solkan Well-Known Member

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    That's the funniest straw man I've read today.

    Unless said grandmother was on the board of directors, in which case you've over dramatized the situation because you left out the fact that it's President Grandma and twenty other people being collectively responsible for the debt.

    The corporation doesn't have to have rights to create a difference between working for a private company and working for an employee-owned company.
     
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  14. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    No, that's not a straw man.

    That's literally what would happen if a corporation was not a separate legal person from it's owners. What do you think funds company pension plans? Stock, almost all the time. Which is a % ownership in the company. Ergo, if a corporation was no longer a separate legal person from the owners, every stockholder would be responsible for all the corporation's debt.

    Please review your business law, particularly the liability differences between sole proprietorships, partnerships, and corporations.
     
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  15. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Funny thing is... Welcome to Spain: when lots of people are forced to not accept what their parents' inheritance because they can't pay the taxes. Or where, if you can't pay your mortgage (because you were fired, let's say, short of paying 50.000 of the 350.000€ the house was sold as) you lose the house, which is auctioned, and then you have to still pay whatever was left after the auction.

    A few days ago, a burglar armed with a knife and a crowbar assaulted a house. The house's dog bited him. He presented a lawsuit against the house owners, and less than 2 hours later a judge had ruled that the dog had to be sacrified.
    And god forbid a burglar gets injured, or killed, while robbing your house. He or his family can sue you for damages!
     
  16. Brother Smoke

    Brother Smoke Bureau Trimurti Representative

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    US estate tax only kicks in on inheritances of over 5 million, thankfully.

    And in some states we have this thing called "castle doctrine" which prevents homeowners from being sued over the deaths of intruders. The only caveat is you have to do the wetwork yourself :wink:
     
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  17. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    First day of opening after the Christmas break and the local supermarket has valentines chocolate and sweets in already
     
  18. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    is this a bad thing?
     
  19. Scribbler

    Scribbler Well-Known Member

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    I just learned on Monday that when the weather drops to below 20 degrees Fahrenheit, the propane dispenser at work stops working properly and takes 10 minutes to fill a single 20lb cylinder (for reference, when the pump is working as it should it takes around 2 minutes to fill). So we’ve had the dispenser closed since Monday because the weather has been so cold lately.

    I don’t think it’s really a bad thing, but it is annoying how quickly things tend to shift from one holiday immediately to the next one several months away. It’s fine by me to start setting out Valentines Day stuff a week in advance, but in the beginning of January? That’s way too early, in my opinion; I’ve barely had time to recover from Christmas and New Years.
     
  20. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    Yes and no,

    On the one hand it's annoying to see Creme Eggs in supermarkets on the first of January. On the other hand I had a creme egg yesterday.
     
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