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Very disappointed with Ramah TaskForce

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by SirNando, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. RasPuto

    RasPuto Active Member

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    Unmasking!
     
  2. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    I have and I wasn't very impressed. This is probably just do to my own preferences though, as I'm not a huge fan of defensive over offensive play. If I'm putting up snipers on ARO, its usually going to be the humble ghulam.
     
  3. VicBanjo

    VicBanjo Máster of Kaboom

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    Unmasking
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37)
    MUKHTAR Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    NAHAB Red Fury, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (1 | 36)
    TUAREG Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    NAHAB Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun + E/Mitter, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]1
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    I'll use something like this:
    Duo of Mukhtar, the Datatracker is the Red Fury and the Dr+ will keep him alive. I'll recommend only to advance if you are completing the mission or hunting pieces and wreaking havoc.

    Tuareg AHD and Nahab KHD for rapid unmasking, you can put the Tuareg in to Marker State and The Nahab in IMMP-2 for better survival after they activate.

    The Nahab Redfury is only for killing, maybe hunting down their datatracker.

    Core is very straight forward, table control.
     
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  4. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    I've been having a ton of fun running these guys together.
     
  5. RasPuto

    RasPuto Active Member

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    Nice one man! Why no Haris tho? Maybe replacing the Nahab RF.

    Anyway, this seems a good build, especially with this good ARO presence.
     
  6. VicBanjo

    VicBanjo Máster of Kaboom

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    I know that the haris is a very juicy option, yet I prefer to have another plan in case I go first and have the option to break the rear of the opponent and the Nahab and do this: Redfury for the cheerleaders and NBW (natural born warrior) against the more tough guys with high ARM.
     
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  7. RasPuto

    RasPuto Active Member

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    And yet, another attack piece if the Mukhtar fails or dies. Kamau scares me a lot, I was thinking about Haris for that.

    The choice could be:
    - Kameel and Nahab RF
    + Mukhtar Haris and Monstrucker

    But probably you're right.
     
  8. Palomides

    Palomides Well-Known Member

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    Not to be difficult, but that list is exactly my point. It looks strong, sure. But isn't it basically just vanilla Haqqislam with a core link? The frustrations with RTF aren't power level, they're aesthetic. The sectorial has lots of cool tools, but it's hard to leverage all of them effectively.
     
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  9. VicBanjo

    VicBanjo Máster of Kaboom

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    Kamau Scares everyone, even another Kamau :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
     
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  10. Koval

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    The Mukhtar haris can easily struggle against the Kamau, though. You have a pretty good chance of a straight fight if you can get the red fury within 16, but that's about it. Unmasking in particular wants you to have multiple hunters around the board.

    I assume you're referring to all the line infantry and remotes in the list VicBanjo posted, where you would prefer more Ramah-specific troopers. I would say that's more a sign of one player's style than that of the faction as a whole. Personally, I would be much more comfortable running something like this.

    Ramah Taskforce──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 KHAWARIJ (Fatality L2) Spitfire / Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 32) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16) GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16) GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16) NAHAB Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun + E/Mitter, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30) NAMURR Spitfire, E/Marat, D-Charges / Heavy Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, Knife. (1 | 44)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37) MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31) 6 SWC | 299 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    That gives an oversized core team that can be used offensively or defensively, while also providing orders for two elite midfield specialists. The Namurr is a very good datatracker in this one who can join the core team, but doesn't have to. She can also sub out for another Nahab and a 10th order if thats more your style. The second group focuses on the Mukhtar. I know you mentioned not liking their dossier, but they're probably our all-around best supersoldiers. Leila is in there for the possibility of a haris, but she has trouble keeping up, so it can easily turn into giving Leila a few free moves up the board, then them running off as a killy duo.

    Again, just like the list VicBanjo is representative of one playstyle, this list is representative of mine. Maybe it suits you better.
     
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  11. VicBanjo

    VicBanjo Máster of Kaboom

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    I like this type of list, with the main attack piece in it when I want it to crack down another big pieces or difficult cores like Kamau or Bagh-Mari. For Unmasking I chose a more mobile list in order to rapidly gain advantage.
     
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  12. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Late reply but I find the FO is actually more useful in that list. Flash pulse, proper rifle, still has a light shotgun, gives me a wider range of specialists for classifieds and the doctor skill is less useful when they all have NWI in that Haris anyway.
     
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  13. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Also if you want to play with a more turbans and desert aesthetic in Haqq, you totally can. Vanilla and HB especially. Not every Haqq Sectoral should have a similar aesthetic; in fact they specifically shouldn't. RTF is the most high tech and advanced military force of a highly developed society, the best of the best. They should look like it, and feel like it, and they do. Professional, elite and built for rapid response. RTF feel just right for me and I think it's unrealistic to expect they'd just be the same as other Haqq armies.
     
  14. onko

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    Uhh.. All the turban units are in Ramah.

    Need to add that look wise I rather like them and RTF as a whole even though some models feel out of place as if they needed to reach the unit-per-sectorial quota.
     
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    Sure, you can run them, but you rarely see an all (or nearly all) turban list at a competitive level.
     
  16. Koval

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    How are you defining "turban units?"
     
  17. onko

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    They're wearing turban. So khawarijs+Tarik, Touareg and I think for haqq that's pretty much it?
     
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  18. Barrogh

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    IMO most of Ramah, including units like Hakims and Zhayedans, look pretty distinctive. A bit more hi-tech than Ariadna, a bit less futuristic than everyone else. I kinda think that "RL, but 20 minutes into the future" suits Haqq well enough.

    But then enter Mukhtars who look exactly like Nomads but not painted red on grey, and Nahabs who look like Acon guys, but more stupid.

    If I'll get to playing sectorial, I'll probably stick to proxying them with Lasiqs/Al-Djabel and Ragiks/Yasbir, respectively (although I do think that the latter is a victim of stylistical mismatch on its own).

    ...I think I've been repeating that a bit too much lately, haven't I?
     
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  19. KedzioR_vo

    KedzioR_vo Well-Known Member
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    I've played today yet another game with my turban list, 5 Khawarijs and Tarik, Li 300pts. 6 turbans in 10 units is rather many ;) Still have more wins than losses, in tournaments and friendly games. Not saying it's highly competetive, yet not bad also ;)


    PozdRawiam / Greetings
     
  20. oldGregg

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    I’m not arguing it can’t be done @KedzioR_vo
    What I’m saying is that most competitive lists I see or run against are lacking that flare of flavor I personally enjoy.

    I too have a higher win rate than losses with my Ramah, and often bring as many turbans as I can. I can only get away with this at small events or with friends however.