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Vanilla CA in N4, the good, the bad and the line troops

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by Erbent, Oct 8, 2020.

  1. WiT?

    WiT? Well-Known Member

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    I've been playing a long time, and I don't think I've ever done anything that felt as useless as the Xeodron haris. I think a solo one has some solid potential as a pile of wounds that fights ok and can push buttons.
     
  2. Lesh'

    Lesh' Infinity LATVIA
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    I ran this roster in couple of practice games, xeodron performed quite well for his price, a good bullet magnet

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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]1
    NEXUS (Lieutenant, Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)
    NEXUS (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)
    KERR-NAU Plasma Rifle, D-Charges, Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 27)
    UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine, Flash Pulse / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 15)
    UNIDRON Plasma Sniper Rifle / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 24)
    Bit (Hacker], Killer Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Oblivion]) Submachine Gun, Pitcher ( | Deployable Repeater]) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher, Pitcher(+1B) ( | Deployable Repeater) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 6)
    ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    XEODRON K1 Marksman Rifle, Blitzen / Heavy Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 53)
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / CC Weapon. (0 | 0)
    Q-DRONE Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 25)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    E-DRONE Combi Rifle / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 18)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    NOCTIFER Missile Launcher / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) Light Flamethrower(+1B), Flash Pulse / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 9)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit, MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    SLAVE DRONE PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    SLAVE DRONE PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)

    5 SWC | 299 Points

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  3. WiT?

    WiT? Well-Known Member

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    That looks solid, certainly better than my list (Unidrons, Xeodron Haris, Malignos, Noctifier, cheap orders).

    My only issue is that its not doing much that vanilla doesn't already do. Just the unidron core, which is solid but not very interesting imo. And I guess the turbo unidron core with the E Drone upgrades. Never ran that, is it worth it?
     
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    I wouldn't be inclined to run Xeodrons as a Haris, they don't really gain much relevant to their strengths and having so much in a small area magnifies the TAG weaknesses to E/Marats, Hacking, etc. Double TAG certainly works, but more because you can have a piece on two fronts that only a small number of enemy pieces can realistically threaten and you can't do that with a Fireteam.
     
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  5. Lesh'

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    I've been in the same boat, regarding "why this OCF roster instead of CA", I'm just running through my personal challenge of playing 5 games per faction that I own or can proxy with relative ease, but I do agree with you, you sacrifice quite a lot going OCF instead of CA, and so far unidron core doesn't really outweigh it.

    speaking of e-drone, yeah, you can either boost unidrons, or q-drone(because you need a backup gun that can punch through if unidron plasma sniper rifle bites the dust), or if needed even fairy dust the xeodron, besides being a back-up fast specialist with a buffable gun.
     
  6. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    A few more game played in N4 and I'm a bit surprised to not hear more about Malignos MSR

    I played Pano previously and used the croc man MSR the same way I use the Malignos MSR know

    The malignos complete the Noctifer ML very well (as the croc man completed my swiss ML). While the Noctifer is better against FT and more scary, the malignos has the huge advantage of being able to deploy on half the table, allowing for scary Lof, many of them your opponent didn't even thought about

    Want to cover the boxes in supplies ? You can
    The Noctifer cover the big 5 man FT ? What about adding a Malignos so you can shoot that likely Lt fusilier
    Affraid of AD ? Malignos can often find a place to cover a big chunck of the table border

    Yes he will end up dead 90% of the time, but he will make your opponent wast a lot of order dealing with it or going around i
     
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  7. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    I've had some success using a spektr sniper in the same way, but I find the Malignos to be a bit too expensive for this tactic. Plus, Malignos+Noctifer it's 3 SWC, it eats up all those high burst weapons I particularly love.

    That being said, it is not a bad idea, and with the 15 troop limit it might be even more useful. Should try again.
     
  8. theresponsibleone

    theresponsibleone Active Member

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    Malignos also has Regeneration, so has a lot of potential in a sniper nest to fall back into cover only to get back up again at the end of the turn.
     
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