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Usefulness of Bolts

Discussion in 'Foreign Company' started by Paladin, May 17, 2019.

  1. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    Could someone help me to determine the usefulness of Bolts, especially in the Core Team with Deadpool, Hannibal and Valkyrie.
    Which Loadouts would you guys take?
     
  2. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Chain of Command
     
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  3. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Any Bolt gives the entire team FD2 when Hannibal is a member.

    Depending on the rest of the list my choices would be between:

    Chain of Command for avoiding LoL
    BSG for cheap Drop Bears
    KHD for specialist with E/Maulers
     
  4. Brother Smoke

    Brother Smoke Contractor for Bureau Aegis

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    I would add the spitfire actually makes for a pretty great attack piece in the haris, and with Hannibal you always start out at good range
     
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  5. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

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    I haven’t done Bolts in ForCo yet but in NCA, the Spitfire Bolt usually headlines my core. I’m getting some mileage out of the MSR Bolt as well, and the Drop Bears and E/Maulers are straight money. Last night my KHD single-handedly dealt with a Marut thanks to the power of E/M.

    With the full Characterball I’d probably throw in a Spitfire for killing and either a Drop Bears or E/Maulers profile for deployables.
     
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  6. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    Something like this:

    Foreign Company
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    [​IMG]10
    HANNIBAL Lieutenant (Strategic Deployment, Strategos L1) MULTI Marksman Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 41)
    VALKYRIE Heavy Shotgun, Grenades / Heavy Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 35)
    SEÑOR MASSACRE Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 29)
    BOLT (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    BOLT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
    LAXMEE Hacker (UPGRADE: Maestro) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Cybermines, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    KAPLAN Engineer Combi Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    KAPLAN Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle, Blitzen / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    AKAL COMMANDO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0.5 | 28)

    4.5 SWC | 299 Points

    Open in Infinity Army
     
  7. Cthulhu363

    Cthulhu363 Well-Known Member

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    I still think the character deathball is a trap. Stick with a Haris of Bolts. Spitfire, shotguns, EM and drop bears. Poetry in motion.
     
  8. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    This is literally why I want to run FoCo. Finally a way to run Tunguska with good MI choices.
     
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  9. Фоллeн

    Фоллeн New Member

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    Foreign Company──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2

    SECURITATE HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)

    SECURITATE Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

    SECURITATE Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)

    CSU Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)

    CSU Breaker Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)

    KRIZA BORAC HMG / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 54)

    PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)

    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    ZERO (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)

    WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6

    HANNIBAL Lieutenant (Strategic Deployment, Strategos L1) MULTI Marksman Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 41)

    BOLT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)

    BOLT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)

    BOLT (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)

    MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 299 Points
    Open in Infinity Army

    My version with Bolts
     
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    Last edited: Jun 4, 2019
  10. TheDiceAbide

    TheDiceAbide That's just like your opinion man.
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    Unfortunately Hannibal cannot join that unit of Bolts if that’s what you were intending.
     
  11. McNamara

    McNamara Merc Rep

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    It does work if Hannibal is the CoC version and the Kriza the Lt. With so many veterans and CoC its actually not as bad anyways:
    Foreign Company
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    SECURITATE HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    SECURITATE Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    SECURITATE Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    CSU Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    CSU Breaker Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    ZERO (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    KRIZA BORAC Lieutenant HMG / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 54)
    WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6
    HANNIBAL (Chain of Command, Strategic Deployment) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    SEÑOR MASSACRE Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 26)
    BOLT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
    BOLT (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    That way you even save points and can upgrade a Bolt to Massacre. ;)
     
  12. TheDiceAbide

    TheDiceAbide That's just like your opinion man.
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    Just a reminder, the bolts in the last two lists by McNamara and Фоллeн are not valid fireteams. They cannot form a Core without Hannibal, Valkyrie, and Massacre, plus 2 Bolts. You cannot make a core with 3 Bolts and Hannibal, you can’t even make a core of Bolts of any kind without the characters.

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  13. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Hannibal does have the Haris skill though, so Hannibal + 2 Bolts or Hannibal + Bolt + Massacre are legal.
     
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  14. TheDiceAbide

    TheDiceAbide That's just like your opinion man.
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    Yup, I just want to make sure that nobody is trying to make links with the 3 Bolts + Hannibal, or 2 Bolts, Massacre, and Hannibal, since each list had one more bolt than could actually join the link. I feel like more people mess up ForCo link composition than Ikari! Haha. :)
     
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  15. McNamara

    McNamara Merc Rep

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    Yeah I was thinking Haris with a back up body as well. The Spitfire might die fast and then you can let the Hacker into the link if it's tactically a good investment or Orders to catch up to them.
    The only Core is the Securitate Fire Team with CSUs.
     
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  16. Dikke Gertje

    Dikke Gertje New Member

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    Why does the Bolt gives them FD2?
     
  17. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Strategic_Deployment

    read the second bullet points under "effects"

    • In those scenarios or when applying tournament rules which provide the Forward Deployment Level 1 Special Skill to any member of the Fireteam, the owner of Strategic Deployment, and the rest of the Fireteam, can be deployed as if they have the Forward Deployment Level 2 Special Skill
     
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  18. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Bolts have FD1 from the Season 10 ITS rules, in conjuction with the above rule the whole team gets FD2.
     
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  19. Brother Smoke

    Brother Smoke Contractor for Bureau Aegis

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    On my last game the Hannibal/Massacre/Bolt link worked like a dream. It was capture and protect. The link started on FD2, out of LOF of all of my opponent's stuff and I literally just ran them under eclipse cover, grabbed the football and legged it. It was glorious.

    Later on the bolt got double crits in ARO with a pistol, that's not necessarily a function of the profile, but it felt nice.
     
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  20. Dikke Gertje

    Dikke Gertje New Member

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    Totally forgot about this...
     
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