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Uma Sorensen

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Stiopa, Oct 29, 2019.

  1. SpectralOwl

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    It's the solo Camo profile that interests me. It's a steep price for what it offers, but it will be great for clearing dug-in enemies from above or approaching snipers from unexpected angles. If CB decide to give that Camo profile a LT option too it could be game-changing for missions like Decapitation or Firefight.
     
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    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    It's pretty much dead everywhere else, but in NCA it will be an interesting option.
     
  3. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Just a quick generic list based off the premise of running the midfielders with as many orders as possible. Orc troop subbing as Uma. 17 regular orders. Lots of cheap firepower on demand. Some decent template action for NCA. Uma and Aida each with a bunch of orders to charge each of them up and wreak havoc. Lots of board control. Strong hacker net available for the KHD and a regular HD to buff a remote. I think this should slow down your opponent enough for one of the girls to be safe and be able to strike back.

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23)
    PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    ORC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]2
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    AÏDA SWANSON 2 Submachine Gun, Viral Mines / Viral Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24)
    FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

    Open in Infinity Army
     
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    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    Are we REALLY calling Aida and Uma "midfield"?
     
  5. SpectralOwl

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    In NCA, yes. The Peacekeeper may as well count as an Impersonator for our poor mobility-challenged capital army.
     
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  6. Riquende

    Riquende Well-Known Member

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    I don't, I'm saying that even if she were that heavily discounted I'd struggle to find any space for her in a list because I can't see what she's bringing to the table.
     
  7. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Brrrrrrt
     
  8. Teslarod

    Teslarod Trebuchet Enthusiast

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    Guys we had this a million times over.
    You can play funny lists all you want, but that's not gonna get us anywhere.
    On top of my head I can think of 10 Sectorials that do the same concept significantly better for less. At this point the only strength of NCA you're using is AVA3 Flashpulse Bots.
    Using bunch of generic stuff and spiking it with the mediocre choices you want to salvage just makes it all the more easy to spot why that is a bad idea.
    Swap Sectorials to SAA. Replace Fusiliers/CSU/Auxilia with Regulars. Remove Aida, Uma, Hexa for Dart and Nagas. Instant massive improvement. Not even to mention that the plan is to spend Orders on TR Bots, Aida and Uma to get shit done, when you might as well run 17 Orders with a Swiss Guard (Bulleteer doesn't count. Every single PanO list has access to it).

    You're not forced into scrambling for deployment skills with NCA. On the contrary, the limited options they have are so bad you're usually better off forfeiting them.
    Having a nigh invulnerable Impersonator prone on a roof hiding in plain sight could hardly be more different from the giant footprint of a Peacemaker waiting to die from a random Chaincolt. "It deploys forward" is just a tiny part of these troop's mechanics. When looking for a common denominator, it's about as important as the Impersonator and the Peacemaker both having BS12.
     
  9. Riquende

    Riquende Well-Known Member

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    Good job there are 9 Bolt models to virtually ignore now...
     
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  10. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust

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    And yet we still need more! Please release a generic Bolt BSG with drop bears, CB!
     
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  11. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Except you're using more expensive snipers instead of cheap missiles. You're losing out on auxilia. You're losing out on TO. You're losing out on viral mines, high burst skirmishers and Uma's durability. You're acting like TR bots are bad which, okay you can say that but you have to admit on some level you're being disingenuous. Recreating the list, you miss out on the auxilia, tech bee and warcor, you have to downgrade the CSU, you lose the templates and gain sapper in the link, you lose burst and gain mines and hacker picks up an lgl. These are all pros and cons of these sectorials, it's up to you to weigh them.
     
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  12. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Remind me what exactly Rao was doing that was not already done by normal Bagh-Mari ?

    (except of being Leutnant while not being Leutnant ;P)
     
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    Uma with a spitfire would have been sweet range band coverage.
     
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  14. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    But that's the point. That what are characters were for the most part. Then we got Patsy <3
     
  15. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant
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    Uma with climbing plus, and Spitfire or MULTI Marksman would have been great. Either as a solo Camo unit or a link member.

    Getting a PanO character with MULTI Marksman has been my wish for a character for a while. I was desperately hoping Patsy would have that.

    But Uma's model does have dual SMGs, so I get it.
     
  16. Arkhos94

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    For my Vanilla, this would have pushed her from "never" to "take in most list"
     
  17. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    An alternative profile with twin asspiss and a Spitfire/multiMMR/breaker MMR to match her alternate sculpt would be really neat.
     
  18. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    A PanOceanian unit with a pair of Assault Pistols or SMGs and a Spitfire is my #1 "so obvious it hurts" character.

    Maybe our character Nisse could finally have this obvious load out.
     
  19. Teslarod

    Teslarod Trebuchet Enthusiast

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    Honestly don't get the second main gun on top of 2xSMGs. X-Visor and done - build a unit from there. Why the hell is she shoehorned into something that looks like the dual SMGs are randomly slapped on it instead of being the main focus.,

    Specific response that that one specific stupid list. Nagas and Dart are flat out better in every way that matters compared to Uma/Hexa/Aida. You "lose" the Auxilia, but get the Minelayer Sensor instead. TR Bots literally don't matter because every PanO Sectorial has them. Unless you plan on bringing a Fusilier Hacker to use one as you main attack piece - if that's a focus point you might be wrong in PanO to begin with.
    Overall you sidegrade the linetroopers to get better main pieces, which is a very significant difference.
    If you were actually using NCA for the stuff it can do, you wouldn't be able to replicate that somewhere else.
    Not to mention that finding 8 points over Uma + Aida nets you a Swiss HMG that fits well with NCA's versatile support chaff.
     
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  20. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    Shrug, I'll be using her, winning games with her and enjoying it.