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"Tunguska or Bakunin?" That is the Question

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by Nibbs543, Dec 13, 2018.

  1. Golem2God

    Golem2God Just a Kooky Kumotail serving others.

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    Why not simply buying another new Roit Grrl and giving her a spitfire instead?
     
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    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Because FU, that's why. [emoji14]

    (Old school Spitfires best Spitfires).
     
  3. Golem2God

    Golem2God Just a Kooky Kumotail serving others.

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    Haha. I was thinking of using a different Grrl from the box and a newer Spitfire instead.
     
  4. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I've done a few old for new swaps.

    The old Spitfire is just absurd. I love it.[​IMG]
     
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  5. Golem2God

    Golem2God Just a Kooky Kumotail serving others.

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    I too like the design as well. Though I think the HRL Riot Grrl is not the right sculpt for a Spitfire Grrl. However it fits perfectly on the new Hellcat.
     
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  6. Robock

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    Sorry I don't quite follow. Maybe a I missed a release.

    To my knowledge (and human-sphere is my go to place for that, altough google image search is sometime helpfull), the released riot grrls are :
    the new bakunin starter.
    the new riot SWC box which only have 3 models.
    the old riot SWC box.
    the old Riot Spitfire single blister. Which google image shows that it is released in both a grey background and blue background but the model itself looks the same like if it is just a re-packaging, not re-sculpt.

    So once you have 1 new from the starter and 3 new from the SWC box, where are you suppose to get another new Riot from ? splitting a starter or a SWC box with a friend ? Or i missed a release I don't see in google image search.

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    (above is a picture from waylandgaming store, below is the old riot grrl we already had a long time ago)
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  7. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I would say that they do play very differently, the lack of warbands in Tunguska and the existence of a cheap and strong LI link in Tunguska are the big ones.
     
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  8. Golem2God

    Golem2God Just a Kooky Kumotail serving others.

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    What I meant was to make a conversion using a newer Riot Grrl body (Boarding Shotgun or Combi-Rifle) with an older or newer Spitfire.
     
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    Robock Well-Known Member

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    Ah ok :)
     
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    Golem2God Just a Kooky Kumotail serving others.

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    Glad we cleared up that misunderstanding.
     
  11. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    Played today against a Hollowman Link. Holy S*** are they strong. Bevor this Evening, I would have said you should play Bakunin, but now I would recommend you should get the Tunguska starter, the Hollowman box, the single Heckler, the Interventor blister or Box and the Support Box for the Engineer and the Zondmate. It's definitely a LI sectorial, but with strong options.
     
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  12. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    Here's a Bakunin list I ran yesterday for an objective-heavy mission.

    It's what I'd consider a "side B" list for Bakunin - a light, spread out force to accomplish objectives as opposed to a Riot Grrl based "side A" list to beat the shit out of things.
    Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MODERATOR MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    MODERATOR Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 10)
    MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    PROWLER Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 36)
    ZERO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    ZERO (Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    BRAN DO CASTRO Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 33)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3
    LUNOKHOD Heavy Shotgun, Heavy Flamethrower, D-Charges, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (0 | 25)
    DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    The big difference between Bakunin and Tunguska is the average power of the models. Bakunin models, on average, are not very strong or capable. Their stats are really underwhelming and they struggle in straight fights. In exchange, the models are cheap and you can afford to prepare for every situation, and you get some super-efficient picks, like the Riot Grrl, Zero, and Morlock. Bakunin is a great pick if you want to play a deep, thick force with tons of recovery.

    Tunguska models are individually far stronger. They don't boot their rolls the way Bakunin does. When you send a Kriza out you can be pretty confident he won't randomly shit the bed and need backup. In exchange, though, Tunguska has to live with clear weaknesses: you suck at CC, you can't dodge, and you'll usually be outnumbered.
     
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