Triangulated Fire through a Sat Zone

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by inane.imp, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Its nonsensical, but it is the word they used. We literally have no ability to distinguish within the rules of the "MOD" of triangulated fire against a normal attribute MOD. Why is one we are allowed to change the value of the burst and the other cannot ignore it.

    As written they both use mod.

    As well. For your second of a BS attack. Are you implying that triangulated fire only allows the user to roll 1 dice? As that is more nonsensical.

    A BS attack here means the entire short skill, multiple burst included. So the ignoring MOD applies to the entire burst, or there is mow problems with this skill than you initially argue.
     
  2. daboarder

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    because you have been informed how the translated game is supposed to work, you can either accept that or not, but theres little pointing in arguing against it
     
  3. Hecaton

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    And as written MOD is meaningless when applied to something besides an Attribute.
     
  4. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    By who? IJW whose posts indicated that it seems unlikely it applies to burst as the rest of the examples are bs attributes. And his other post that makes it sound as if you only are burst 1? Those are not official statements. To say i have been informed how the game is supposed to be played is false, no one has that authority. The best you can do is say you have presented your opinion, take it or leave it. I accept that position, but it enrages me when people present that they have more authority over the rules then they actually have.

    Yes, but either we ignore it completely as it makes no sense, which is incorrect i feel as saturation zone is supposed to give -1 burst. Or we assume that it qualifies as a MOD yet applies to something not quite an attribute and so the rest of the rules work as intended. To say it is nonsensical so it isn't a mod but a reduction is to far as the rules as written is clear of the word used.
     
  5. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    @kinginyellow Just treat it as -1 Burst and ignore the MOD part.
     
  6. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Nah man, it has mod written, so I'm going to treat it as able to be ignored, that's what the rules say to do. But from here, i think that's the best this thread can have from us.

    P.s. dont worry, i just ran into another stupid scenario, so it ain't like these are ever going away.
     
  7. Leviathan

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    So does that also mean it ignores the +1 Burst mod for being in a fireteam, too? :P
     
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  8. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Nope, double checked before posting. Fireteam says bonus, not mod for +1 burst.
     
  9. daboarder

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    Its a mod, Ignore the two clowns, they have a habit of this.

    TF only ignores the to hit mods, positive and negative.
     
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  10. ijw

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    It's an Entire Order Skill so that doesn't apply anyway.
     
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  11. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Triangulated fire says you only ignore the mods to the roll itself. So not the number of dice you roll, but what modifies them.
     
  12. kinginyellow

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    I do not read it that way. I read it that the bs attack of full burst is at a -3 mod and ignores all mods. While the examples it gives afterwards are all bs mods, it doesn't say that it is only bs mods.
     
  13. Make PanO Great Again :P

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    Reviving this

    Now that Full Auto L1 exist:
    EFFECTS
    • During the Active Turn this Special Skill applies a MOD of +1 to the Burst value of the BS Weapon of its owner.
    • This MOD of +1 is not stackable with other bonuses or Burst MODs provided by other rules, Special Skills, Equipment, or Hacking Programs, except for those who specifically state otherwise.
    Are we all in agreement that the -1 Burst IS a MOD and as such ignored by Triangulated Fire ?
     
  14. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    If you read the thread, it's not about whether the change to Burst is a MOD, but whether Triangulated Fire only affects BS MODs.
     
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    Make PanO Great Again :P Varuna, with the deadliest reptiles in the sphere

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    Hecaton does, time and time again...
     
  16. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    No. Until they re-write the rules, they're still derping it up applying the term "MOD" to Burst bonuses.
     
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