Too early for August?

I've mixed feelings about the NWI+Shock immune thing that is still there. I was hoping that points values would be fixed to get rid of this abomination and give troops a proper 2W again.
Also hoping that SMGs get a nerve, points costs look like they are even cheaper than before.

Apart from that, I like what I see so far!

 

I don't care about the NWI+shock inmune. I dont even care about Yujing Pseudo HI being dumbHakable from carrying +1ARM compared to those guys...

What I'm outraged about is the apparent point increase of the Boarding shotgun (from 6p to 8p acording to lawkeepers) after such a huge nerf and despite being statistically so close to a SMG+chain colt (the close range weapon carring AP ammo that costs 2+1p)

The boarding shotgun cost should have dropped by 2p.

RIP Boarding shotgun profiles. I'll never gonna pick one if I'm not forced to do so. So many profiles have gonne to the dumpster in one sweep

 

Crusher seems to pay 6 points for SMG>Multi, it was 9 points in N3.

 

Aren't Shotguns getting a B2 DTW firemode in N4? I vaguely remember something like that floating around a few weeks ago.

 

They are, or already have of you consider Code One.

 

man, this reveal today is bittersweet imho. This sectorial looks really good - really really competitive, and that's awesome. at the same time, i was hoping they would greatly scale back "cheating" the points system, highly optimized profiles, insane fireteam combos, etc etc.
also, Kappa hacker now costing the same as a regular kappa? crazy.

 

that was never going to happen once you denested everything.

 

Can we really say they're cheating the costs if we only know the costs for a half dozen units in the game?

 

The data is too slim to say for sure, but I think Multi Rifles have gotten cheaper, at least compared to Red Fury

 

Wow, this from a Warcor. Very encouraging, Mr. Warcor! :D

 

If you thought every warcor was a paid shill then I have some desert land I want to sell you.

 

We can, whether or not we should is a different question... seems like we need the “Jump To Conclusions” mat from Office Space...

 

If you check any vanilla HI you'll see a multi is 4 points on top of a combi. Orc troop, Zuyong,... but it may cost a bit less in N4

• Kappa: SMG+Hacking device = Combi Rifle = 7points (N3)
• Crusher: SMG +6p diference = Multi Rifle = 11points (N3)

So, according to this math, and SMG costs 5p if the multi keeps it's cost, and the hacking device lowers from 7 to 2 points. But I'm not so sure about the Multi rifle keeping on that pricing. If the Multi cost is 9p as you say, the SMG would cost 3p

checking numbers in infinitymath, SMG vs BS on active face to face rolls is so close that both modes should cost the same. The BS is better on reactive, but the B3 gives you more chances of avoiding extreme results (all the rolls low or fails), so it feels more reliable.

on the other side, the BS would cost 1 point less than a Multi Rifle (It feels So Lame, but this would be a good time for the multi rifle to finally shine)

Do you value so much a Direct template weapon to actually increase the pointcost of a BS over a combi? a chaincolt costs 1 point and two double of that, a SMG costs 3 to 5p. even considering the double template and the 5p cost, paying 8 points for a BS feels a bit pricey.

But the thing that bugs mi the most is that all the signals pointed towards BS being cheaper. If you check C1 Costs, BSs cost 0,5 less than a combi as a regular basis. It's a path contradiction

Well, if you like it play it, nothing is on your way. there are a lot of troops that doesn't feel meta-valuable but can be fun time to time. especially in a game like this that has a luck component.

Even with it's bad things this game is fun to play. I'll play it. But I'll probably only take BSs if I'm forced by circumstances.

 

If it's a decrease to the cost of hacking devices, that's a welcome change across all armies.

 

That's how I came across the points differential for N3, going from SMG to BSG is 4 points (ref: JSA Oniwaban) Going from a BSG to a Multi is 5 points (ref: ORC trooper) so we can deduce that SMG to Multi is a 9 point differential.

A Kappa is 12 base, adding a hacking device is 8 points (ref: Fusiliers) swapping combi to an SMG is -5 points (combi is 1 more than BSG in N3) which gets us the 15 points the N3 Kappa costs. N4 Kappa hacker is cheaper but we don't know the cost of a Hacking Device so can't say how much price differential the SMG is giving here.

Crushers aren't in N3, so not sure what this line is meant to represent, but we do know that the differential between SMG and Multi Rifle has gone down 3 points, so either multi rifles are cheaper, SMGs are pricier, or both.

 

wow I can bring Hector to STarmada that's cool, he is my favorite steel phalanx mini. Does anyone knows Hector he will get o12 mini or I have to get another copy and paint it in o12 colors same as Dart for whom I painted in operations and shock army colors

 

In the video he even says that a lot of units had their points costs reduced I believe.

 

Yeah, from looking at Code 1 costs and what he said during the video it seems to mainly be ARM and CC that have been reduced in price, which is good!

 

laughs in Tohaa

 

Lots of items change points cost in N4, including MULTI Rifles and Hacking Devices. I don’t know where you’re getting 7pt for an N3 Hacking Device from, just look at basic units like Fusiliers or Alguaciles. Standard N3 Hacking Devices are 8pt, AHDs 5pt and KHDs 3pt.