Tohaa GenCon Predictions!

Discussion in 'Tohaa' started by Cothel, Jul 23, 2018.

  1. konuhageruke

    konuhageruke Well-Known Member
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    Hehe, I know that, and First Aid works only on unconcious symbiontarmor troops, so very limited :)
    I think the idea may actually put more pharoware tactics on board, since symbiomates are soo much better than symbioboms.
     
  2. ChoTimberwolf

    ChoTimberwolf Artichoken Friend

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    Make Pheroware count as specialist action I mean seriously
     
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  3. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    This would give more personality to the Tohaa army, but I think that programs like End Game or Revitalis would be too powerful if you could use them with a unit as many times as you wanted, but, the other programs are very well, they would give extra support in the games
     
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  4. Zsolt

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    • Viral combi Paramedic Sakiel!
    • Taqeul that can Target on the active turn!
    • 0.5SWC Sakiel LRL (LRL is the SWC cheap, points expensive variant while HRL is the points cheap and SWC expensive one, LRL costs 0.5SWC on a Montesa knight, that's a HI with mech deploy!)
    • Bomb Kaletars should not share AVA with mate Kaeltar, as no one using the former. CoC would be nice there too.
    • Symbiobombs limited use is necessary, as infinite use deal 1W on anything with a W would be bit too much, but it should have disposable 2 or 3 maybe.
    • Imo Kotail need some loadout refreshments, they are a bit bland now.
    • Gao-rael with Sniper and Spitfire is cool, others seem bit boring.
    • Imo Nikoul either needs MSV2 or some weapon that's not 1.5SWC.
     
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  5. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    - Yeah, im agree with the Symbiobomb limited use is necessary too, the END GAME is good, but if it will be Unlimited times, it will be broken

    - Kotail it's a bit expensive, or, it's not so good than other linked units, or other alone units like the Rasail for example, or the clipsos, uhm even the Igao... i like it but... it's hard to find a place for him, i hate that because i love his E/M Greanades

    - Kaeltar's are Kaeltar's so they must share AVA, but, maybe they can add profiles that can add 1 symbiobomb to symbiounits or maybe symbiounits that they can equip himself with 1 symbiobomb, i mean, it's a Corahtar Discipline lvl1 skill, and this skill can be on more troops with the (Symbiobomb) option
     
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  6. ChoTimberwolf

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    I actually quite like the kotail its a useful killer and holo is pretty fun to use but could use some tweaks probably.

    Main reason I never use the bombs is that they don't have CoC, are only 6 points cheaper and the bomb is way more situational...should be cheaper or mates more expensive and bombs should have coc...
     
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    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    i use Symbiobombs a lot, and yes, the correct word for them is "situational", I agree on that
     
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    I love symbiobombs and prefer them to mates. The problem with bombs is no COC on the profile, not with the bombs or what they can do (my opinion)
     
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  9. nehemiah

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    I take one of each Kealtar in nearly all of my lists. The combo of 'mate and 'bomb on a unit like the Kerail is fantastic, and 1 CoC unit is enough unless I have already made some terrible mistakes.
     
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  10. melkiach

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    Hehehehe, yeah, the Kerail Datatracker with Symbiobomb is my most beloved aggresive datatracker, 2 wounds, 1 smg, Smoke, some extra protection... so cool :D
     
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  11. melkiach

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    Back to @Cothel main question hehehe, do you expect something nice for this Tohaa? Something that doesn't mean a reesculpt?

    some original tohaa? or chaksa or anything of our army? or any new original rule? or even a weapon?

    Actually I saw since Ayyar the evolution of his weapon, the marksman rifle, maybe they will release in the future with viral Ammunition? i see just now on TAK with T2 ammunition, it will be not a crazy option right?
     
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  12. Hiereth

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    How much use do you think a Nikoul profile with a Viral Marksman rifle would get?
     
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    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Why on Nikoul?

    Why not on a Sakiel or Sukeul profile? or even on Clipsos

    I mean, mid range troops, Nikoul is a long range unit right?
     
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  14. Abrilete

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    Give it Forward Deployment and this would be an incredibly interesting profile: find a good spot a little ahead your Deployment Zone, deploy a Mine or two, get into the Foxhole and enter in Supression Fire state. Awesome defensive unit.

    Shit, now I want it.
     
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  15. Zsolt

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    My main concern with the Nikoul is that it doesn't have MSV2, so it can't handle all ARO issues alone, and I really don't like spending 1.5SWC on a sniper rifle (the reason why I don't like MSR either). Also B1 doesn't seem much when everything is in a Triad. On the other hand it has loads of survivability (compare it to a Nisse, which is a top notch ARO piece, but has a single wound (and also has B1. goes down to HMG bursts all the time)).

    Gao-Rael is already cool being linkable and stuff, I don't think upgrading Nikoul to MSV2 would hurt it.

    The FD + Viral marksman option is a good idea. It's free of SWC, so it wouldn't need to handle everything (if an ARO piece takes up all/most of the SWC I want to spend on ARO, it has to deliver), so lower expectations, would see more play IMO.
     
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    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    A lot of snipers haven't MSV2, and for the points it cost, Nikoul does his job, is good at active turn, and is good at ARO turn, and have a lot of resistance, and a fearsome weapon
     
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  17. ChoTimberwolf

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    Sure Nikoul isn't bad but I tried a few games not using sukeul ml + gao rael sniper + kaeltar mates and it sucked, Nikoul was ok but kaauri sniper and clipsos sniper rarely survived more than one attack...and quite a few missions you need good aro or you have already lost the game if the enemy gets first turn
     
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  18. melkiach

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    Yup, that's the issue of the generic Tohaa on the metagame, you have better options to choose, and yes, Sukeul LM + Rael + Kaeltar are a better defensive ARO team (Speaking of Limited Insertion basically, on +10 orders you can choose to spend less points on the ARO team and try Nikoul)

    It is good, but maybe on future sectorials it will fit better, dunno

    @Abrilete you suggestion is quite good idea, i'd love to try this kind of nikoul!!! sounds good!
     
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  19. Ben Kenobi

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    I don't know a model with TO:Camo and another long range weapon than a Sniper. It would be to good on the Clipsos.
     
  20. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    No MSV is sometimes better then MSV1. You will be effected by smoke and white nois.
     
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