Just remember that Negative Feedback (NFB) applies, so you can't benefit from TO in the Order you revealed from Camo.
Yes you can as the state and the skill are not the same thing and so can benefit from the -6 from the skill but be in a lower state than TO
if i recall correctly.... We used to think that being allowed to exist in the Camo State was an effect of the Camo Skill, ie. being in the state was a proof of actively using the skill. With the effect or idea that you could turn on Mimetism for the full Order in order to turn off marker state for the full Order. Recently it was ruled that forgoing the use of the skill (by using Mimetism NFB for example) does not remove your Camo State as the only way to remove it is by properly triggering a Cancelation clause, which reverting to Mimetism isn't. Then it follows that you can use either Mimetism or TO skills (and their effects such as -3 or -6 MODs) and it will not kick you out of the Camo state (as king said, the state itself is not NFB).
Game examples make it clear that you are able to benefit from both CH: Limited Camouflage and CH: Mimetism in a single order, so I think that supports being able to benefit from the full -6 to BS of TO Camo even if you were hiding as a regular Camo marker.
You don't benefit from Camo and Mimmetism. You just benefit from Camo: "CH: LEVEL 2. CAMOUFLAGE During the Deployment Phase, allows the user to deploy in the Camouflaged state. During the game, allows the user to be in the Camouflagedstate. Additionally, any BS Attacksagainst the user of CH: Camouflage suffer a -3 MOD to the relevant Attribute (BS, PH, WIP...)." Limited Camo has an explicit exception (the Red Box) that allows you to combine it with Mimmetism (the Cateran clause).
I was specifically referring to limited camo; I agree it's not relevant to regular camo. http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Camouflage_and_Hiding_(CH)#CH:_LEVEL_Y._LIMITED_CAMOUFLAGE The red box doesn't say anything about combining with mimetism. It just has the same(ish) surprise shot wording as all the others. EFFECTS During the Deployment Phase, allows the user to deploy in the Camouflaged state. However, once the user is Discovered or reveals himself, he will not be able to return to Camouflaged state. In the same way, once the user is Discovered or reveals himself, he cannot benefit from CH: Camouflage nor CH: Mimetism Special Skills (unless he possesses the CH: Mimetism Special Skill as well, so he can use it). This does mention mimetism. It's not clear if it's creating an exception to the NFB rules or if it's just reminding you that alphabetical skills don't inherit other levels without explicit permission.
My mistake, it wasn't the Red box. The fact you can combine the benefits of Limited Camo with Mimmetism is exceptional. Compare instead the interaction between Cybermask and ODD. The interaction between Camo and TO is the same. Ergo you cannot benefit from the effects of Camouflage (being in the Camouflage state) and those if TO (-6 to hit) in the same Order.
You don't combine the effects of Limited Camo with Mimetism, you combine the effects of Surprise Shot and Mimetism during the order in which you drop Camouflaged State that was gained from Limited Camouflage. And just to be clear (even if this might spark an argument), what the red box third bullet point clarifies is that you don't get the benefits of camouflage (the -3 to enemy BS Attack roll) during an order in which you drop your limited Camouflaged State - unless you also have Mimetism.
Does Limited Camouflage even give a -3 MOD to BS? The third bullet under effects is just essentially stating that you don't have either CH: L1 or L2 as a result of having Limited Camo, so in order to gain the -3 BS MOD from mimetism you'd need to also have that skill (there is exactly no way or point to have both CH:L2 and Limited Camo).
@Mahtamori: I didn't say effects, I said benefits. Which you described (Surprise Shot is a benefit of being in the marker state granted by Limited Camo and -3 to hit is a benefit of Mimmetism). NFB refers to benefits (not effects) which is why it stops the following: Cybermask/ODD: Surprise Shot is a benefit of being in the Impersonation state granted by Cybermask, -6 to hit is a benefit of ODD. Camo/TO: Surprise Shot is a benefit of being in the Camo state granted by Camo, -6 to hit is a benefit of TO. The only reason this doesn't stop Ltd Camo/Mimmetism is because of the text in Ltd Camp's rules. @Carotgrapher: Limited Camo never grants -3 to hit; however, the Camouflaged state grants a -3 to Discover.
The question is how NFB works when using CH:L2 to deploy in Camoufalged state while also having CH:L3, the Limited Camo is a bit of a red herring. The FAQ entry regarding ODD and Cybermask (same issue, different skills/equipment) would seem to indicate that on the surprise shot turn you can't benefit from the CH:L3 -6 MOD; the prescedent seems to be that maintaining a marker state is a continuous use of the prerequisite skill.
I'm not sure it's the same issue. The Cybermask Program has to be constantly run to keep the IMP state, so Cybermask isn't the equivalent of the Camouflage (or Limited Camouflage) Special Skill because that's not tied into keeping the Camouflaged state.
