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Thoughts on Ye Mao

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Space Ranger, Nov 22, 2020.

  1. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    You can prepare for it. But it is table dependent. And it’s less than a positive experience for newer players.
     
  2. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    It’s not just catching someone off guard. There’s a point at which a poorly constructed table at a tournament could leave you with very little you can do to defend yourself.
     
  3. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, I've seen that happen a lot more with Noctifers. Like order of magnitude more.
     
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  4. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    That's not a super jump issue. TO not putting enough terrain on the table breaks alot more than just super jump.
     
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  5. wes-o-matic

    wes-o-matic feeelthy casual

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    I'd just like to be able to link super-jumping models in White Banner, ffs.

    Give Ye Mao 6-2 MOV. 6-2 Super Jump would buff the viability of Ye Mao and give them something distinctive for MI and put them in a position of competing with Karhu on similar terms. Let one Ye Mao join a Guijia duo.

    Give Liang Kai 6-2 MOV so he can 6" scoot into CC. Let him join a Ye Mao fireteam or a Guijia duo.

    While I'm wish listing for White Banner:
    • I would very much appreciate a White Banner-specific Shaolin profile with Climbing Plus so that you have the option of linking someone with Jing Qo who doesn't get left behind when she scurries up a %$&@ wall.
    • Jujak. Haris. Pls. Pls?
    • Let Zhanshi Yisheng join a Zhanshi link. Not super impactful for lists, but it's thematic for a bunch of soldiers who probably regularly form search parties to be able to integrate a field doctor into their teams.
    • Make it weird. Give White Banner a Haris profile Tiger Soldier. Yes, you'd have to spend a command token to form a link with it once three Tigers hit the board, but "I walked a mimetic BS 13 Haris into your flank from off-board" would be one hell of a trick to have up your sleeve.
    • Give us a Hundun MSV2 MULTI Rifle FD+8" specialist operative or FO profile. I'm sure she'd be spendy for a 1W profile, but what the heck, a hidden deployment specialist somewhere between a Guilang and Daofei sounds like a fun option.
     
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  6. ldgif

    ldgif Well-Known Member
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    I would really like Ye Mao or a Jujak linkable with our TAGs, lets give these forward moving Engies a good duo!
     
  7. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I think they are systematically preventing AD troops from joining Fireteams for a reason, whether that's a good or bad reason or just "stops weird bullshittery". But it doesn't need to be a weird profile, it could just be similar to Crushers; some profiles with AD and some White Banner unique with Forward Deployment instead.

    Tiger Soldier (Forward Deployment (+8"), Specialist Operative). Multi Rifle, Light Flamethrower. 31 points
    Tiger Soldier (Forward Deployment (+8"), Multi Spectral Visor L1). Multi Sniper Rifle. 34 points 1.5 swc
    Tiger Soldier (Forward Deployment (+8"), Haris, Duo) Spitfire. 33 points 1 swc
    Tiger Soldiers with Combat Jump may not join a Fireteam
     
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  8. wes-o-matic

    wes-o-matic feeelthy casual

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    I would 100% buy a Tiger Soldier four-man box if they did that.
     
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  9. SpectralOwl

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    Personally I'm sick of units having to pull double or triple duty with their equipment sets. Makes it harder to follow what's what in an opponent's army. Tigers should just be AD, frankly they're great as is, WB doesn't even need a forward Fireteam with their excellent midfield (though an AD Fireteam might be fresh enough to consider investigating). What WB needs is more reasons to use the Fireteams they have, or otherwise have a reason to select the faction over Vanilla since most of its strengths are in high-AVA solo units. For the Ye Mao, what I suspect they need is a better filler profile like a LSG Paramedic or somesuch thing in order to make a risky assault MI link more likely to make back its points.
     
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  10. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    FD8" MSR MSV Tiger would be pretty fucking incredible in a haris. I want this.

    Also, any excuse to make more Tiger models is a good excuse for me. Way better looking than the Ye Mao, anyway.
     
  11. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    I intend to use tigers without the jet pack for ye maos since I am not a fan of the helmets in the official model.
     
  12. fatherboxx

    fatherboxx Mission control, I'm coming home.

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    Ye mao let you make a list where A LOT of your army can see and shoot through smoke that you pretty reliably place with monks which is very fun. B2 gizmokit (in a haris) is really useful to get your downed Long Yas and flashpulse bots up.

    Looking at their counterparts in Svarlaheima, Vargars - they really should have fireteam core or be freely linkable with Shang Ji and Jujaks. 2 HI, 2 ye mao (engineer + khd for example) + tiang gou sounds fringe playable and not much different from 3 HI + Lei Gong + Tiang Gou that you can do already, but provides a tool against smoke attacks.
    Full wildcard might be problematic for yet another msv+mimetism aro piece in a cheap team but bagh mari already exist and they are very similar.
     
  13. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    If they could core or Wildcard I'd be a little happier.

    As I mentioned before. These "equivalents" have theability to form a Core team.
    MI Core teams: Wildcats, Morias, Vargar, Bagh-Mari, Bolts, Kaplans, Djanbazan, Sekban, Druze, Govad, Muyib, Yadu, Scot Guard, Briscards, Marauders, Grunts, Rodok, Yaogat

    These ones are also Wildcards.
    Muyib
    Sekban
    Grenzer (can't form a core themselves, but any number are Wildcards)
     
  14. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I think I finally realized something good about the Ye Mao. The KHD and Cybermask. Having a Super Jump, Terrain total, MSV1, Specialist with Cybermask is great. In some ways better than a Guilang in that he won't set off mines and such moving past them. Other YJ KHD have something like holo or camo that's better. Except the Pheasant who doesn't have the movement capabilities but it's a good defensive thing.
     
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