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Thoughts on Gunnar Trollhunter from Dire Foes

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Ghost_X, Mar 17, 2020.

  1. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Gunnar's background is pretty good, or close to being pretty good (he should be like, being a Viking was something that is actually kind of lame and now I'm a professional soldier but with a runic face tat)

    If his mini wasn't cosplay then I'd actually be a fan

    (although get rid of European PanO now)
     
  2. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    @Solar decent unit, nice fluff, model straight out of w40k. I do like Space Wolves, that was my army, but I'll be converting my own Gunnar ;)
     
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  3. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    eh, I think its a neat look for a character, if its was a general unit with that type of aesthetic I would be disappointed.
     
  4. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    I'd be ok with it if not for that cloak and fur...
     
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  5. Brunmar

    Brunmar New Member

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    The only thing that bother's me is reading 'NKAH, Nordiske Krigere av Heimdall'.

    It just stinks of English phrase google translated to nordic language without taking local grammar into account :)

    (and no, I don't expect them to know this. It just sticks out like a sore thumb when you read it)
     
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  6. kanluwen

    kanluwen Well-Known Member

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    It's a common thing with them.
     
  7. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    There’s nothing grammatically wrong with that sentence in Danish, even if that’s a weird way to phrase it.

    Although a more ‘organic’ way of phrasing it would be ‘De Nordiske Krigere af Heimdall’ or ‘Heimdalls Nordiske Krigere’.

    Then again, I’m not sure if it’s suppose to imitate Swedish, Norwegian, Danish or be a weird amalgamation of them all. Kinda’ like the name ‘Kaldstrøm’. I have no idea what language it’s supposed to be, because it looks like the word ‘Kuldestrøm’ which translates directly to ‘cold current’. Perhaps it’s Norwegian as I’m pretty sure Swedish people don’t normally use the letter ‘ø’ but again, I suspect that it’s a weird hybrid of pseudo Scandinavia speak, as googling the word only brings me Infinity related search results and never anything actually used in any sentences in any Scandinavian page.
     
  8. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Svalnorse is an established language in the fluff, which is an excellent blag for weird spellings/grammar.
     
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  9. Thanqol

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    Why are there nazis in pano.

    Pano is indian

    Why are people in tyol2178, a time when consciousness can be freely transferred between genetically engineered synthetic host bodies, concerned about racial purity of all things? Wouldn't some sort of new social issue come up by then? Like, the literal alien shapeshifters in service to robot satan that have launched a ground invasion of a major planet?
     
  10. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    I hate to tell you this, but even with a base population including a lot of people from the Indian subcontinent is no protection against right wing racist extremism. There's a depressingly long history of it in India (and some worrying things happening along those lines now).
     
  11. Thanqol

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    But it's the future. You can literally move the cube from a person of one race into the skull of a different race. You can design a lhost from the genome up into the perfect warrior. Medical technology is so advanced it can literally bring people back from the dead. Why is bloodline purity a pressing political issue?

    Toxic nationalism I get. But racism?
     
  12. SpectralOwl

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    Race is a really easy way to identify foreigners (or locals with foreign ancestry, which some groups consider just as bad). Ultranationalists aren't known for being patient or discerning, and there are very few PanOceanian regions with significant Asian, African or Middle Eastern populations so they're easy targets for the disgruntled of Svalarheima, especially Asians since there's a not-a-war-we-promise-O12 going on that's probably cost a lot of people friends, family, homes and livelihoods. As for designed LHosts, they're expensive and most people would probably like their family to recognise them when they came home. Nobody outside of ALEPH or Bakunin has been shown using a markedly different LHost to their natural body in the setting yet.
     
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  13. Thanqol

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    What about founding members Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines?
     
  14. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    The majority of their populations probably never went into space going by the paintjobs of the miniatures.
     
  15. SpectralOwl

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    CB forgot about them, mostly. I think there's a few parts of Varuna where they're prevalent, and of course on those regions of Earth, but PanO is primarily European on Neoterra and Svalarheima and Indian and Brazilian on Acontecimento. Can't remember what Paradiso was but the most prevalent demographic there now is "Fusilier" and half the civilians have fled. The only unit with real Pacific Islander fluff is the Croc Man from memory.
     
  16. Solodice

    Solodice Freshly Squeezed Troll

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    It's the future alright but humans are still doing human things. Even with the great advances in tech there are still the haves and have nots. Your everyday average Joe won't be resurrected when he dies. He's not powerful, wealthy, or "lucky" enough. Good Lhosts that you actually would want aren't free. The state provided ones are old and antiquated.

    As for bloodline purity? Well the future didn't cure idiocy. It still exists and extremists are still around taking advantage of it.
     
  17. Thanqol

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    Rad, that's what I'm objecting to. We're talking a population in those three countries almost equalling the European Union's population and moreover being the founding members of the PanO state. I'd get it if the Sval nazis wanted independence from PanO too but as it is it's even more mouth-droolingly stupid than nazi ideology already is. It'd be like if, like, Brazilian-Australians started hunting down French-Australians for diluting the pure bloodlines of British-Australians. You don't even have a dog in this fight guys!

    I kind of put this one down to a lack of vision in the present.
     
  18. Solodice

    Solodice Freshly Squeezed Troll

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    I don't. It's naive to think there aren't going to be extremists in any type of fashion born from whatever half cooked ideas they read from some other extremists book, website, or lecture. Someone will be there to latch onto the ideas. Someone. It could be anyone for any walks of life. From idiots to the educated.

    In Infinity they are still there. From bio-terrorists to racists and speciesists.
     
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  19. Thanqol

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    I'm not against the idea of there being extremists in the future. I'd just hoped that the form those extremists took was informed more by the social, technological and political history of the setting and not just 'fucking nazis, again'.
     
  20. Tongfa

    Tongfa ULTRA INSTINCT UKR

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    I mean frankly you could say that about today. We have literal black magic aeroplanes built from tonnes-heavy metal and heresy that travel distances at speeds someone from 1845 (isn't infinity like 175 years 'ahead' of us - I'm not too sure) couldn't even conceive.

    When the fastest you could go back then was with a steam powered ship, we're sending robots (someone from 1845 being like what the fucks a robot?) and we're thinking about sending people to Mars (which on my better days, I think "wow what a privilege that we live in a time when we can contemplate reaching out to the stars" - most days I just think who the fuck gives a shit about Mars all the real problems are on Earth, focus on that shit first).

    Surly anyone from 1845 and sees the miracles of open-heart surgery where we literally cut folks open and dig around like no worries thanks mum tip tops the one would think that surely we've moved past petty conceptions of race (or maybe not, given what we know of 1845...). In any case - while in a lot of ways we have gotten a lot better generally - we're still human and the concepts of lol fuck you you're a different colour still exist in our time, as they did in 1845, as they did in every other fucking era with humans (and the other like 6 sub-species or whatever of humans before homosapiens wiped them all out).

    That's why the ideas of bloodline purity or whatever nonsense in a sci-fi setting not make it seem unrealistic. They (within reason) make it seem grounded. That said - I do think the idea of all the special characters being a 'reformed former space nazi' is a bit much.

    It is funny though that the homebase of the white pride space nazis is on a FUCKING SNOW PLANET.
     
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