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Third Offensive???

Discussion in 'News' started by Elessar, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm, why no Tunguska?
     
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  2. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    They missed the memo while playing Destiny.
     
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  3. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    My guess is that 3rd offensive is not immediately relevant to them. They might be in the next book. Bostria's "sooner than you think" makes me think Q1 2019.
     
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  4. Smiler

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    Amazing! Thanks Koni.

    Some screengrabs of the Libertos dossier and profile for people who can't watch the video[​IMG][​IMG]
     
  5. Graves

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    Oh neat, the Beyond Coldfront, Line Kazaks and Varuna starter are all up on the CB store.
     
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  6. Pyra

    Pyra Warmongering Potatoe

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    #errorPlaytesting_Balance_not_found_404

    8pts profile is just incredible, auto-include in most competitive lists.
     
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  7. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Irregular Frenzy SMG. That's three major discounts. Limited Camo rather than Camo and FD2 rather than Infiltrate are another two.

    I actually had it pegged for Inferior Infiltration. Which would have been hilarious.
     
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  8. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Frenzy, low stats. Kind of an infiltrating warband. It's useful, but not op and not an autoinclude.
     
  9. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Only plays for Generic though, so no sectorials. You want this AVA 8pt dude you gotta give up all your fireteams.
     
  10. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    Wow, that profile is stupid OP. Sorry @Stiopa

    He can almost auto dodge perimeter weapons from the start due to FD:2 and Hyper Dynamics. Marker state, decent BS which is compensated by close range cost efficient weapons. zero bloat on ARM, WIP, BTS, CC or any stats he will never use. Massive discounts across the board and even Dogged as well as surprise attack to boot. This may be the most cost efficient unit in the game IMO.
     
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  11. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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  12. Pyra

    Pyra Warmongering Potatoe

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    Compare this guy to the Krakot for 15pts, you gain certain doged, 4" of extra deployment, marker state, anti-armour weapon while still having template and smg. All this for trading CC capabilities and a discount of 7pts. Hyper-dinamicsL2 with FD2 resolve all the problems with crazy koalas/mad traps.
     
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  13. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Is it overpowered, or is this just confirming what everyone already knew that CC stats are shit and overpriced?
     
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  14. SmaggTheSmug

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    [angry Hyperpower noises]
     
  15. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Final warning against real life political discussion.
     
  16. Pyra

    Pyra Warmongering Potatoe

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    I think it is more about this profile, no rules bloat, just great skills/weapons, it is just way too cheap in my opinion. Example with Krakot is really great since Krakot is already one of the best cost-effective profile in the game. Now we get an even better one...
     
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  17. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Fair point, CC stats being shit, and a model lacking rules bloat are not mutually exclusive things.
     
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  18. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Wait for Helot Milita.
     
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  19. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    It's a BS11 Irregular Trooper with an SMG.

    It has basically one good attack (Surprise Shot) after that it's not exactly great. It'll struggle to actively win any firefights outside of 8".

    Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely including one in my Vanilla lists but I expect 90% of the time I'll use it to clear mines / perimeter items and then sit on Suppression in the Midfield to catch Extremely Impetuous troops. Which is great for 8pts, but hardly game breaking OP.
     
  20. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    With a massive AVA 1, smaller DTW, and low range weapons in general. Sure, it'll be great at cleaning up minefields and perimeter weapons. Looks like PanO uses "enslaved cannon fodder" Helots in a more responsible, less expendable way than other factions use their "freedom fighters".

    Krakot is more expensive, but it's also Regular, and with its weapon choices and Berserk can set up much more favorable trades. So I don't see any reason to proclaim the sky is falling.

    Yeah, I get the feeling they'll be worth it. Especially given Decoy and their weapon choices.
     
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