The cool thing about regular Datz is that they actually become a very strong bargain basement fireteam, since suddenly your psychotic fanatics can claim cover on top of their mimetism, throw smoke on 20s (and grenades on 20s) with two dice, and actually shoot well... not to mention the existential threat they represent if more than one gets into CC at a time. I mean look at this: DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 21) DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 22) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) 0.5 SWC | 85 Points thats fantastic value.
I think I'd take a BSG instead of DACCW Dat, but your point stands. They can do very well in CQB, especially if you can field a second potential Core somewhere in the background, to switch fireteams at the right moment.
They go really well with a Yaogat haris for obvious reasons, and then you still have 120-130pts to spend on specialists.
Something like this? What changes would you people make to it? Morat Aggression Force ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 5 DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 20) DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 21) YAOGAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 30) YAOGAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 29) YAOGAT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34) GROUP 2 5 4 5 Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) OZNAT Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 18) GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4) GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4) GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4) PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7) 3.5 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army
It's a risky one to take IMO, as you'll have to start the game with the Hungries Fireteam already formed as you can't reform the Fireteam at all, the Daturazis would immediately go impetuous. A Zerat would probably provide more utility, or a Rasyat if you really want to go with overwhelming firepower.
@Golem2God I would go more this direction: Morat Aggression Force ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 5 KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41) Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 20) DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 21) YAOGAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 30) YAOGAT Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 29) YAOGAT Spitfire / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 32) GROUP 2 3 E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 4 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army I love my 11 order primary group. My turn 1 plan generally consists of hiding Kornak behind cover while the Daturazi run up the board followed by the Yaogat hunting party. I try to keep the Ikadron close to reload the panzerfaust. Have Bit & Kiss get a repeater or two down to allow the E-drone some Exile coverage.
Like this? Morat Aggression Force ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 5 DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 20) DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 21) YAOGAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 30) YAOGAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 29) YAOGAT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34) GROUP 2 6 RASYAT Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, D-Charges, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 31) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 3 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army Morat Aggression Force ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 5 DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 20) DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 21) YAOGAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 30) YAOGAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 29) YAOGAT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34) GROUP 2 7 ZERAT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 3 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army
Crazy list with 2 Cores to be swapping Fuerza de Agresión Morat──────────────────────────────────────────────────GRUPO 1 9 5 DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Granadas, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC AP. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Granadas, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC AP. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Fusil Combi + Lanzagranadas Lig. Humo / Pistola, Arma CC Shock. (0.5 | 21) DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Granadas, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC AP. (0 | 14) DĀTURAZI Escopeta de Abordaje, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 20) YAOGAT F. de Francotirador MULTI / Pistola, Arma CC. (1.5 | 34) IKADRON (Bagaje, Repetidor) 2 Lanzallamas Ligeros, Pulso Flash / Pistola, Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Bagaje, Repetidor) 2 Lanzallamas Ligeros, Pulso Flash / Pistola, Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 9) ZÁNGANO-R Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)GRUPO 2 6 MED-TEC ÓBSIDON MEDCANOIDE Fusil Combi, Cargas-D / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 23) ZÁNGANO ESCLAVO Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3) ZÁNGANO ESCLAVO Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3) RODOK Ametralladora / Pistola, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 27) RODOK Lanzamisiles, Escopeta Lig. / Pistola, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 28) RODOK Teniente Fusil Combi, 2 Escopetas Lig. / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 26) RODOK Sanitario (MediKit) Escopeta de Abordaje, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 21) RODOK Hacker (Disp. de Hacker de Asalto IE) Escopeta de Abordaje, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 25) 5.5 CAP | 299 PuntosAbrir en Infinity Army
I'd say never go less than 10 orders in one group, as if you go first, -2 Orders hurt quite a lot, I'm oftentimes feeling short on orders when I have 8 orders after they use the command token, but in this case it's gonna be even less.
Well, we were mentioned as a whole, so I would wait for more info, but I think we will see something for us.
There was no direct mention of any of the Sectorials that are just getting updates rather than being new Sectorials.
Unless I've missed something, from CB's side we've only ever had rumor and implication that the older PanO sectorials would have tweaks as part of the Varuna drop, (which could be as little as new ORC profiles) and as a community we've spun that out into various levels of everything that's under par being rebalanced. Even if several sectorials do get the ava and fireteam tweeks that FRRM were given, as @eciu says, that might be around the same time as the book goes on sale, but not really a part of it. At very least we know from experience that any adjustments will be made in Army as well, so they won't be locked away in the book anyway.
oh yes, there's always hope. @cazboab rumors that MAF is getting some tweaks circulated on facebook and discord, but apart from that picture with Raicho silhouette personally I know nothing that might support those, so I was kinda hoping to get some hints that those rumors might be true.
Tbf, the vodeo names Combined Army at the start. No other whole faction is named... the Sectorials that were named are either new releases this year or upcoming releases. It also didn't mention Mil Ords even though we know they are getting updates...
