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The smart missile launcher: this unknown

Discussion in 'Access Guide to the Human Sphere' started by Fangoman, Mar 4, 2018.

  1. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    Oh.. that’s not what I actually meant. :joy::see_no_evil:
    It’s just that flash pulse has like the biggest -3 range band in the game so anything between 24”-48” is still only -3.
     
  2. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    My bad sorry, too late tonight, i better go to the bed xd
     
  3. Solar

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    That's the thing though, would you? Because sometimes being order intensive with zero risk is something I'm fine with my opponent doing a lot of the time. Yeah so I can't shoot back, but they just spent four orders to kill a Zero, and that's half their first turn main order pool gone, and that's if it works out pretty perfectly! I can soak that casualty for that investment on that scale.

    Sometimes it's worth it, against high value enemy troops, if you have everything in place. But you need to invest in it as a potential tactic, and the investment in a GMLbot is not cheap. 1.5 SWC needs to earn it's keep.

    I think spec fire with Grenades and LGLs is more viable myself. They are less of an investment and with just a FO and some E/M Grenades or whatever, you're laughing. Kusinagi with E/M Grenades and a Zero FO I'm taking anyway, or an Intruder with Grenades and a Moran FO I'm also definitely putting in already, are pretty okay as a "maybe this'll come up" option, IMO, and most of the time that's all a GMLbot is too, but with a higher level of investment.
     
  4. theGricks

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    that all comes into the opportunity cost. I dont think anyone sane would spend 4 orders SML'ing a Zero. But a Full Core Link hiding behind a building, ready to jump out on their active turn? In a nice template size formation? Well even with SSL2, they will be hard pressed dodging a SML reliably. I would deffinitly spend 4 orders getting the middle marked.
     
  5. MATRAKA14

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    [​IMG]

    That wonderful feeling when you manage to blow up something in the first try with your useless traktor mul using guided mode, and you know its not going to happen ever again even using direct fire against an unprotected imetron.
     
  6. Solar

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    Yeah but who groups their fireteams up in nice template shaped formations? Nobody who knows what they are doing. And against them that's going to be more than four orders, you've got to cross the table, past any AROs, and then Sat-Lock someone resetting on the same WIP as you're hitting on, and after all that? Alright cool you killed a Wildcat.

    I'm sure there are scenarios where the order investment is worth it, on occasion, and you've got no other options, but you need to spend 1.5 SWC to even have the option. That's an investment, a serious one, for "might be useful," is all I'm saying.
     
  7. Abrilete

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    Tohaa: we usually deploy several Fireteams, and we usually don't have enough cover to protect and spread them at the same time, so many times the Triad-mates end up bunched close together. And without 6th Sense, without high PH and without hight ARM, Tohaa dies pretty fast when you hit them with one teamplate after another.
     
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  8. T. Rex Pushups

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    I see people do it in nearly every battle report I watch. People should know better but people cluster all the time.
     
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  9. Barrogh

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    Pretty weird considering you have almost a 1/6th of the table to spread you link, or so.
    Yesterday I had an opportunity to make an observation that in my city this won't probably fly. I guess constantly playing against people who miss no major European competitive event does that to a meta.
     
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  10. Mahtamori

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    Problem with those theoretical spreads is that they tend to not work for active links that need to move. As soon as you put troopers on different floors, different sides of fire lanes or simply too far back, you immediately have to spend extra orders to make sure people don't get dropped from coherency or accidentally shot by AROs - losing the biggest advantage of an active link, order efficiency.

    For a defensive link it works just fine avoiding templates by spreading out. Most of the time at least.
     
  11. krossaks

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    You will maje me remember that knauf kill all life don't you?...
     
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  12. Aspect Graviton

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    Never managed to get guided missile off using spotlight but I've had a lot of success with CA and Ariadna using forward observers without too much order investment.

    Ariadna can get enough orders that it's not really an issue and have plentiful infiltrating camo FO, CA have a Malignos in a high position on the halfway line in group 1 and a GML with some cheerleader rems in group 2 but it's a bit more of a 'list built around' strategy much like taking a decent line TAG
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    Like applying guided missiles into this lovely ball of bulleteer, father knight and paramedic until the twitching stopped
     
  13. Jonno

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    I had a USARF opponent walk a camo FO to find an unexpected angle on my "hidden" Saladin, which he then assassinated with the guided missile. I think he was in LoL himself, so it must have only taken two irregular orders (shock ammo on the missile). Obviously it was my mistake for putting my lieutenant in danger like that, but it was from angle I hadn't appreciated until that point.
     
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  14. regelridderen

    regelridderen Dismember

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    One aspect of SMLs, that people seem to overlook is, how it is a force multiplier in the extreme.

    The Forward Observer is the cheapest (and often most useful) specialist in the game, as he comes with a very useful long range ARO to waste opponent orders. But when he is suddenly complemented by a SML back in his deployment zone, he also gains a fearsome offensive piece, sporting a 1.5SWC gun. With 4-5 FOs on the table, that is a lot of ‘extra’ SWC firepower.
     
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