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The lonely Shang Ji

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Space Ranger, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    Ah I see. Inside jokes and all that.

    ...reminds me of that lingering curse I have. I am forced to take MSR Guilangs in every list lest I slight some unseen higher power since my luck whenever I don't have that girl around sure looks like it. <.<
     
  2. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    Yours die, mine don't thou (?)
     
  3. Miraclebutt

    Miraclebutt Well-Known Member

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    I wanna reiterate that the HMG is a huge buff to the Shang Ji. Getting that 2W firepower in your Zhanshi core is massive, even if you don't get the extra TA order out of it. This opens up unusual (for IA) list building options that lets you take an aggressive Zuyong Haris to hold the midfield. I could see IA doing really well just solely based on getting a 2w HMG in a cheap core.

    They could really really use a Long Ya to help bulk up their weak DZ defense, but in general Shang Ji are extremely worth using, even in IA, and especially in WB.
     
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  4. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    Liar.

    Long Ya in Invincible would be a dream. Please make it happen CB... why keep the remote Sectorial exclusive?
     
  5. wes-o-matic

    wes-o-matic feeelthy casual

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    Can we get Jujak or Tian Gou while we're at it? I'd settle for AVA 1, even.
     
  6. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    They did just that with the OSS Remote
     
  7. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Long Ya will be in Dashat, not in IA ;)
     
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  8. Weathercock

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    Don't joke about that.
     
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  9. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    The changes to the ShangJi benefit the IA but not WB, which is a good thing.
    1st: You cannot put Quang Gao into a Zhanshi Core in IA, so you would need the ShangJi there.
    2nd: The HRL is a good option in the LI Zuyong Core. This core link is mobile in general, so that extra order helps them more than the Zhanshis.

    Invincible Army
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    [​IMG]5
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenades / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    SHÀNG JÍ (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 42)

    4 SWC | 185 Points

    These guys have a whoopin 10 orders under their belt and can deal with any threat except E/M2 and Jammers.
     
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  10. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! Plus the ShanJi HRL is actually a great piece, because it carries a shotgun. When you need to turn that corner and blast a conga-line, he can do it quite well, or he can blast fire at longer range from cover while advancing. TBH, I really feel bad for the ML Zuyong now, he got relegated to the shelf.

    If you include the mandatory Daoying (for a total of 206 points), you have 11 orders in 6 models, 11 wounds, and the cost for each order was about 19 points (each). That is very, very good in my opinion.

    This feels like a good LI list:

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    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    SHÀNG JÍ (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 42)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenades / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    4 SWC | 300 Points
    Open in Infinity Army
     
  11. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I don't see ever taking the Shang Ji HMG when I can take Qiang. In White Banner Quaing can wildcard into anything just like Shang Ji. Then in IA I think they are both bad compared to a Zuyong in that fireteam. In a IA Zhanshi team, i'm more likely to take the HRL SJ.

    QIANG GĀO HMG, Nanopulser / 2 x Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 43)
    SHÀNG JÍ HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 44)
     
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  12. Crusader

    Crusader Well-Known Member

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    At least the new shang-ji render looks amaaaaazing.

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  13. Greysturm

    Greysturm Invincible Army Drill Sergeant/Military Theorist

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    Thats a multi rifle right?

    If so either they made a mistake or will be seeing another rework of the profile soon.
     
  14. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Yep, definitely a multi rifle
     
  15. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    I mean if they don't get reworked they're probably still gonna struggle to get off the shelf.
     
  16. Greysturm

    Greysturm Invincible Army Drill Sergeant/Military Theorist

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    Digging the tortoise aesthetic, sets the m apart from the other HI. Really hope they can set it apart rulewise as well, especially from Zuyongs. Maybee 6-4 movement now that 6-2 seems to be the new standard.
     
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  17. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    Sooooo happy they kept the helmet-neck style of the old ShanJi. Love it.
     
  18. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I always thought dragon-like, but ya! The more I look at him the more I like.
     
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  19. Modock

    Modock Well-Known Member

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    It looks a bit bulkier than the standard HI. That's a fine design, really.
     
  20. Janzerker

    Janzerker Well-Known Member

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    Multi rifle in the AHD profile is just a nerf. It means more expensive and the loss of versatility the LFT offered. :(
     
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