I think it's clearly worth stating that this is a tough hit for Yu Jing, but I really think it sets the stage for cool developments in the future. Yu Jing has two very interesting Sectorials that are already very well developed in terms of lore, rules and existing miniature releases. Both Imperial Army and White Banner have the potential to be fantastic releases. So when you look at it compared to most other Vanilla forces, Yu Jing will benefit in the long run in terms of release schedule. Also, with the new proxy rules... No individual miniature is invalidated. Your JSA Heavy Infantry can still be used as Chinese troops.
I personally am looking forward to all the new mix ups that players will have and the access that others will have to JSA. While not a JSA player its cool seeing Ninjas interact with other non YJ armies in general.
I can think of two units that truly serve no purpose in vanilla (some people apparently even think Haramaki are good, but I think they're insane), and several others that I love. JSA units are underused because they're JSA, but that's on the players and some cases the prevalence of boxes over blisters. Maybe some new stuff will come to fill in, but it's going to take literal years to claw back what we had unless we get another year of Yu Jing. If a mass culling of units is good for the long term health of the faction, then that's only because the new units we're slowly drip fed won't be ignored from their white and red logos. There's enough redundancy that vanilla will still function adequately even now, but most factions could do the same without a sectorial. It's just the nature of vanilla. And as an aside, anyone got a good defensive link killer? I'm not confident Raiden will be sticking around. Wu Ming HRL just doesn't do it for me, the price increase is bearable but that SWC is a bit much. Am I just going to have to brute force it? I wish I was filled with rage. Rage is energetic at least, and can even be fun in a way. This isn't fun at all.
Oh, so what would you suggest I proxy with these 4 Aragoto? Are you also going to suggest I proxy this Oniwaban and Kitsune as two extra Ninjas, to go with the Ninja I already own? Last I checked you can only bring 2, that you'd never bring more than 1 anyway because CB won't update them so there's more than 1 bloody profile worth using. Pull your head in. I didn't start playing this game to play with a bunch of stupid proxies, nor did I spend that time and money on these models to have them turned into stupid proxies. Take your bad shills elsewhere.
Then play them in JSA. Or sell them, there are likely folks willing to buy them. They still have uses, even if they aren’t the ones you want.
I'm not playing JSA, I didn't buy them to play in JSA and I'm not going to start now. If CB expect to pull a GW "Buy the new X so you may keep using your old Y" on me they can fuck right off. I didn't fall for it with GW and I certainly won't start with CB. As for selling them that'd be appropriate if they're NIB. I am not a successful enough hobbyist to get good value out of my models after they're done. I am one of the average masses where the second you put paint on the value plummets.
Calm down or listen to your own advice. Your models didn't turn into proxies, they can be used as such. Sure, some of them won't be in vanilla YJ anymore. You can still use them in JSA just as they are (btw, the final JSA unit lineup was just released by Mayacast and already got posted in the news section).
Then strip them. Or don’t. Point is, the only person making them useless is you, not CB. There are still plenty of ways to use them, but if you’d sooner willfully ignore them, bully for you.
I Like the event. I Hope the game will develope nice in the futur. Its not shure which units Yu Ying will loose or am I wrong?
It's CB making them useless. Your shill is awful, corpodrone #10982, try again. Pretty much everything Japanese that's not a Ninja.
I'd like to point out that a "shill" by definition is an actor. Someone who is paid to pretend they support something. I really don't believe that is the case here. Like many folks on the internet, you choose to maliciously mislabel someone who disagrees with you in order to malign and discredit them. In turn, no one here appears to be treating you the same way. People are merely expressing their own opinions about the changes and positing some stuff you could elect to continue utilizing your models.
Perhaps they should stop trying to convince me that it's acceptable for CB to start pulling some rent a model bullshit, and I'll stop referring to them as shills. I will also point out that you will notice alot of the people shilling are Warcors. Who do get rewards from CB. I would have more respect for them if they called out CB's shitty move as what it is, a consumer unfriendly, dick move.
And your petulant whinging and whining while obstinately ignoring any type of solution is disingenuous and dishonest... There are solutions and ways to get value out of the troops no longer in your preferred faction, but no one can help you if you peevishly refuse to accept them.
Oh yes, because I should certainly have to buy more models to continue using my models. Or, I should have to sell them at a loss. Both options are a joke. Bad shill, try again, corpodrone #10982.
What I am trying to point out is that someone who disagrees with you is not by definition a shill. To use the parlance, they are also not a "cuck" or "Hitler". Grow up and learn that sometimes stuff happens which you don't like but others really do like. It doesn't make them wrong or bad.
This is entirely hipothetical: So let's say they removed, some random troop. Let's say the Taqueul, since no one will ever feel hurt about it. And lets' say I had the (unreleased as of these days) Taqueul mini. And they gave the Taqueul troop to Ariadna. I can sttill play the Taqueul in Ariadna, but I loathe the Ariadnan playstyle. It just doesn't go with me, I don't find it fun, whatever. I could still play them, but only by actively hampering my win possibilities (by playing a faction that I just can't get right) and my fun (by playing a playstyle I find boring and uninspiring). If you were in this hipothetical situation, in these hipothetical conditions, wouldn't you feel at the very least slightly bitter?
No, what makes them wrong is repeatedly trying to convince me what happened was A) Acceptable and B) I should be happy about it, or at the very least I shouldn't be mad that I'm getting fucked over for someone else' benefit. Because I'm both getting fucked over by CB, and I'm pretty fucking mad about it. Hence, bad shills. If you say "Yes, CB are bunch of dicks for doing this, could've been handled better. I've lost some respect for the company over how they've bungled this entire event. On the other hand I've always wanted to play JSA and that model box is cool so I'm pretty pumped." I have no issue with your statement. If you try to excuse what they've done with some bullshit pathetic excuses *cough* warcors *cough*, you just shit me off even more.
How should they have handled it then? If the plan was all along to have JSA split off of Yu Jing, them losing most (if not all) Japanese troops is pretty much a given, both from the fluff perspective and from a gameplay perspective, in order to diversify the two factions. I agree that it does suck for a portion of players, but I don't see how they could have avoided this situation.
