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The definite N4 Comments, Suggestions, Ideas, wishlist's and Bugs that need fixing thread

Discussion in 'Access Guide to the Human Sphere' started by psychoticstorm, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Can I also suggest anyone who thinks "Designer's characters are always OP" takes a look at Bran Do Castro and Le Muet.
     
  2. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    If they were designed today they'd be much more powerful.
     
  3. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    I would absolutely guarantee that Bran would have NWI+Shock Immunity.
     
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  4. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Like Pavel McMannus did?
     
  5. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Based on absolutely jack shit other than your own cynicism?
     
  6. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    Why bother? We know what the answer is, any contrary information goes in the memory hole and then we call MiniLuv on those who disagree with that answer.
     
  7. Hecaton

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    It's pretty obvious that with the last round of releases the design team latched onto the combination of NWI and Immunity skills in a cargo-cult like fashion.
     
  8. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Citation please. you might want to review the characters in the game... theres a lot of them that you might not have noticed with the ol' eye patch on.

    Like why didn't perseus or hippolyta get shock immunity?
     
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  9. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    But there MUST be a nefarious plot if things aren’t exactly the way players think they should be!
     
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  10. Hecaton

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    They probably weren't the rpg character or self-insert of someone who worked on the game.
     
  11. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    But, again, the answer is known, get with the program! Counterpoints are obviously flawed and should dismissed out of hand.
     
  12. Hecaton

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    You're one to talk, considering your unflagging support of the great and might CB.
     
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  13. colbrook

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    So again I ask why didn't Pavel get NWI+Shock Immunity?
     
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  14. Hecaton

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    Must have been designed before they picked up this habit. If you compare him to the AP Marksman rifle Strelok, he's quite the deal for 6 more points, however.
     
  15. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    Or Vassily, or Mary, or as already mentioned Perseus or Raoul, or Hippolyta...
     
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  16. Weathercock

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    A moment of lucidity? Hard to say. With the amount of models that get it these days, I'm genuinely surprised he didn't have it when I just went to check his profile, I had thought he did. For what it's worth, I do really like his profile.

    That said, the 'everyone and their dog getting NWI+Shock Immunity' didn't really become a thing until IA came out, and Pavel was before that. At which point, it's like the flood gates were opened. Ramuh, the heroes from Foreign Company, and Cuervo all end up drinking from that well. The combination went from feeling like a justification for Yu Jing's cheap, budget heavy armour to just feeling cheap.
     
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  17. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    That seems like an awfully convenient copout.

    How about you actually list out all of the characters, when they were released and who has what "OP skills" or would that actually be too self-evident of your own bias?

    So half of Forco got it. None of Ramah? and 1 o-12 guy. So much trend. Much convinced. Wow.
     
  18. Hecaton

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    A good portion of Ramah got it or something similar. But it definitely is a trend, even if it's not hitting every model. But the trend definitely started after IA hit.
     
  19. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    2 profiles and no characters. Since we were mainly talking about characters it seems strange to start citing Muktars as "a good portion" or evidence of a trend.
     
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  20. Hecaton

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    Out of the four profiles with NWI in Ramah, one of them has Shock Immunity, one of them has Bioimmunity, and one of them has Total Immunity.