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Stealth, Idle, Fireteams

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by mittenninja, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. mittenninja

    mittenninja Invincibles NCO

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    Holoprojector lvl1 has the exact same wording in it's cancelation clauses.

    • The trooper in Holoprojector L1 state declares a Skill other than Cautious Movement or a Short Movement Skill that does not require a Roll (except Alert).

    And in the Holo1 examples it says

    A Fireteam Core of Janissaries with a Hafza in Holoprojector L1 state imitating a Janissary, declares a Move + BS Attack Order. The Hafza, who is not the Team Leader, moves and provides support to the Team Leader, which is considered an Idle. As this Short Movement Skill doesn't require a Roll, the Hafza is not revealed, and so remains in the Holoprojector L1 state.

    So, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't break stealth as well @ijw ?
     
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  2. Brother Smoke

    Brother Smoke Bureau Trimurti Representative

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    RAW it would seem that is indeed the case
     
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  3. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. That example is badly justified. It's basically a "hey, we don't want to screw Hafzas" exception. Without that example Hafzas would have been screwed.

    No similar exception exists for Stealth.
     
  4. mittenninja

    mittenninja Invincibles NCO

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    It's not an exception though, it's saying that since the model is considered to idle, it doesn't declare the bs attack and thus declares a short move skill instead of a bs attack. That part has nothing to do with the holoprojector rules specifically.
     
  5. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Which directly contradicts the Fireteam rules: which are explicit that all members of the Fireteam declare the Support Skill.

    And that example explicitly discusses Holo 1 in the Holo 1 rules. So while you can argue it's generalisable I can argue that it's exceptional.

    The only thing that we know for certain is that CB doesn't understand how they've written Fireteams to work (see NCO and Tactical Sense).
     
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