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Spec Ops Tournament (HB)

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by Cannon Fodder, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    So our LGS is having a Spec Ops tournament (12XP) soon, and looking at taking my HB with me. Mostly because :
    1. I haven't played HB since the lat rules update
    2. HB get Muyibs instead of starter grunts
    3. Muyib Fire teams are GOOD.
    The scenarios are
    • Decapitation
    • Highly Classified
    • Looting & Sabotage
    So far my first list is below, where I think the Spec Ops with ENG, Jammer, Vet L1 would be useful. I checked the rules for jammers and it looks like they stack with Fireteam bonuses. Eng for Highly clasisfied (except I have no remotes to repair) and Vet for counter jammer in case I see other getting the same idea.

    Whats everyone favorite Spec ops, and do you have any ideas for these scenarios.

    HB: Spec Ops 1
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MUYIB (Infinity Spec-Ops) (12 XP) (Engineer, Veteran L1) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust, Jammer / D-Charges, Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    ASAWIRA Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    HASSASSIN HUSAM YASBIR (Holoprojector L1) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CCW, Knife. (0 | 27)
    MUYIB (X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    MUYIB Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    FARZAN (Marksmanship L1, Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    FARZAN (Marksmanship L1, Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    BARID Hacker (Hacking Device) Lieutenant Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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  2. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    1. Jammer
    2. Holoprojector
    3. Some other shit who cares
     
  3. Fenrir

    Fenrir Active Member

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    there's not point about barid hacker and chain command.

    Farzan chain command get it out of there and spend the points in kameelx2 + fanous or fanous + rafiq.

    And you could need some muttawia or at least muyib smoke
     
  4. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    I would kick the Veteran. For 4 Points its far to expensive and you have a Asawira with BTS 9 who can go hunt the other Jammer if need be. If the Asawira gets isolated, well your Spec Ops is an Engineer. Give him Minelayer and a better WIP to really excell in his role as deterrent and Specialist.
    At least for Highly Classified get Leila in that Link.
    If you take a normal Fiday, I recommend the loadout with with Mines. Laying Mines at the Edge of the Opponents DZ and watching him wasting a lot of orders in his turn to get rid of them, because he got no Minesweeper is pure gold.

    Whats the plan for the Barid?
    And that second group I wouldnt be comfortable with...it might cost you two precious orders if you have the first turn, but you cant do much with it. Yes its main purpose is harassment and AROs...but one or two regular orders and a Mutt would be something to consider. Smoke is really important sometimes to get out of the DZ.
     
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  5. Gabarra

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    That just made me think:
    GHULAM (Infinity Spec-Ops) (11 XP) (WIP:15, Doctor Plus, Engineer, Minelayer) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) 0 SWC | 13 Points
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    It’s insane you’re getting an improved ghulam doc, with a free nasmat if you think about it... That’s possibly the best dual specialist option in the game!
    Take that doctor worm, sophotect, kumotail...
     
  6. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    Yes because Doctor Plus :D hehehehe.
    I really don't give up with the "veteran" option. If for some thing the "spec-ops engineer" is isolated (not only about jammers we should be worry about in this times... A lot of E/M ammunition now in a lot of factions) and he can't repair itself (at least is a debate about if yes or no because you need to be in base contact with the target... :'( ) And too because that regular order in case your LT and Chain of Command died and you remains in LT loss, at least you have one "no Command Tokens needed" order you can use to recolocate the fireteam.

    I think the changes did a lot of good in Hassasins :)
     
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  7. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Right now I'm looking at dropping ENG and going
    • Jammer
    • Doc plus
    • Minelayer (AP mines are also added)
    • Holoprojector L1
    It will replace my usual muyib doc in my link. I still need to rethink the rest of the list.

    For the link I'm looking at.
    • Asawira spitfire for firepower
    • Spec ops
    • Muyib smoke lgl or yasbir
    • Leila
    • Muyib fo
    Does virtually all highly classified, except ENG. But for ENG I would also need remotes. I like the yasbir in case I need CC and smoke but can get it with Asawira and smoke lgl. I think that decision will come down to if I want the lgl to be my LT or not.
     
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  8. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    Sry, no time, came up with the following list

    Hassassin Bahram
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    ASAWIRA (Fireteam: Haris) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 44)
    MUYIB Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 23)
    MUYIB (Infinity Spec-Ops) (12 XP) (WIP:15, Doctor Plus, Minelayer) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust, Jammer / D-Charges, Pistol, Knife, Viral CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    FIDAY Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 31)
    FARZAN (Marksmanship L1, Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]8 [​IMG]4
    FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points
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    One active Harris team and a defensive Core team plus some button pusher and the nasty little things
     
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  9. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking at the following fro 2 scenarios

    Highly Classified
    • This list can do most scenario with Fireteam or Farazan. Biggest gap is ENG and lack of Visor, but I think its acceptable.
    Loot & Sabotage
    • Lots of Mines to defend the AC2 from infiltrators/impersonators
    • Fiday with DA CC as primary AC2 attacker. (d-charges)
    • Fireteam and Farazan as plan B for attacking.
    I may drop a couple daylamis and remotes for something else. but AROS woudl drop a lot.

    HC & L-S
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MUYIB (Infinity Spec-Ops) (12 XP) (Doctor Plus, Minelayer, Holoprojector L1) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust, Jammer / D-Charges, Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    ASAWIRA Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    MUYIB (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    MUYIB (Minelayer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D.E.P. Antipersonnel Mines, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    FIDAY Rifle + Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 31)
    BARID Hacker (Hacking Device) Lieutenant Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    FARZAN (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    FARZAN (Marksmanship L1, Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]6 [​IMG]3
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    4.5 SWC | 298 Points
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  10. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    I think you could do some changes in order to make the list suitable for all the possible objetives.

    The spec ops can be turn into an Engineer, yes, you need to loose the doctor option and too other, maybe minelayer or holoprojector L1. Probably I will choose to loose the holo and put Paramedic, so you can do both objetives, Doctor/Paramedic and Engineer. Still you need a good doctor, so I will change the Muyib minelayer for a Muyib HRL (in this way you gain some range weapon) and change the Muyib FO for a Muyib Doctor Plus.
    Now you can do all the Objetives except Sensor/Visor... You don't have two forward observer, but ir I don't remember wrong you can do all the OA Objetives with a Hacker (Normal, Assault or Plus).
    If you have Muttawiah and Daylamis, you really don't need so many minelayers, spec ops and farzan can do the job in order to prevent the camo troups arrival, and jammers complete the work. Against impersonators mines are useless, they only could do his action the last,but you can do the same with the jammers.

    If you want to cover all the objetives I will think in turn "one dailamy and one Kamel" into "one Rafig", you can do now the Sensor/Visor objetive, plus add one more FO, and with "Marksman L2 from the Barid Hacker" could do some some job with the Rifle+LightShotGun :) Too you could do some use of the sniffer in the Rafiq.

    So, my proposal is something like this:

    HC & L-S
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MUYIB (Infinity Spec-Ops) (12 XP) (Engineer, Minelayer, Paramedic) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust, Jammer / D-Charges, Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    ASAWIRA Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    MUYIB Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    MUYIB (X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    FIDAY Rifle + Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 31)
    BARID Hacker (Hacking Device) Lieutenant Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 21)
    FARZAN (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    FARZAN (Marksmanship L1, Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]6 [​IMG]3
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 8)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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