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So, let's talk about that Onyx update...

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by Hecaton, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. McGufalo

    McGufalo Member

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    Is this list competitive?

    [​IMG] Rodok & Unidrons
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] UNIDRON Plasma Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] NEXUS Lieutenant Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON K1 Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] RODOK (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] RODOK HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] Q-DRONE Plasma Rifle / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    [​IMG] Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] FRAACTA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)

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  2. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Remember that Kerr-Nau cannot join a haris of Rodoks.
     
  3. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Nor any other Umbra or Nexus.
     
  4. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    Swap Kermit for a Rodok KHD, Combi Fraacta for a BSG, Nexus hacker Lt for a spec ops lt, Plasma Sniper for ML, K1 for another regular carbine, and swap an ikadron for an E-drone. Consider dropping the last FO for a regular combine to get the HMG Q-bot. Depends on what you need that core for in the mission. If you need the FOs, drop an imetron and upgrade the lot.

    Not saying it's competitive, but that's how you would get the Haris, Core, and something to buff the Q with (also get that drop bonus for the fraacta) while keeping the spirit of your list.
     
  5. McGufalo

    McGufalo Member

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    Why?, i didnt know that
     
  6. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Would probably have been easier to just paste a new Army extract :P

    Also, Kerr Nau is clearly "The Colonel" - not "Kermit".

    Look at the updated Fireteams in Wiki - Rodok has Core, Core*2, Haris

    Where *2 is the allowance for the Core to be made of up to 4 Rodoks plus 1 Nexus Operative/Samaritan/Legate.
     
  7. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    As Paraelix noted - the rule that lets Nexus operatives (including Kerr-Nau) join a Rodok or Unidron fireteam is the 'special fireteam core'.

    When you make a fireteam haris you're obviously not making a fireteam core, so the option to use the special core doesn't apply.

    It's a bit of a pain but, fortunately, most of the Haris setups you can do with the Rodok link seem pretty good. It also means you avoid the manoeuvrability issue you get when the Rodoks try to super jump and anyone without the rule has to idle.
     
  8. McGufalo

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    Understood

    What about this

    [​IMG] Rodok & Unidrons
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] RODOK HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] RODOK (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] RODOK Hacker (EI Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] UMBRA SAMARITAN (EI Assault Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Goodnight) Plasma Carbine, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (0.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] NEXUS Lieutenant Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

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  9. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Different to how I'd write it, but looks good. Give it a crack for sure :)
     
  10. Flipswitch

    Flipswitch Sepsitorised by Intent
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    I tried one of my standard lists with a TAG taken out and the Rodoks put in, worked really, really well.
     
  11. norsecompass

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    Oh an aggressive Unidron Link is fun! The ability to go dogged and keep punching someone in the face with an assisted fire spitfire then have an infowar deathstar in the midfield is great!
     
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  12. derbrizon

    derbrizon Well-Known Member

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    Jesus... Onyx has very good hacking game now.

    You can squeeze in a repeater network, several top notch KHD, pitchers, support ware etc.

    And then you can take equipment that just removed the hacking game... All in one list.

    And it comes with plasma.

    Heaps of people use unidron as defense I think they're better as pushers -especially with Kerr nau, e-drone, and Nexus lt hacker on the table. The dogged thing in ARO is not always the best. The opponent often gets you to dogged state, then just stops shooting, and then there's no chance of repair. But when it's your turn, you can really capitalize on the dogged thing. A troop that's already dead is the best attacker, and plasma is a one-size-fits-all ammo. Nothing short of jotum-level stuff does well vs plasma.
     
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  13. Geodron

    Geodron Well-Known Member

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    I like doing both with a Unidron link. I take one ARO weapon and the spitfire with one extra Unidron. That way they can be defensive for the 1st turn and then with the ARO dron dies the team can move out as offensive. Personally I think the ML works best for that set up because if it survives you can bring it forward to use its light shotty.

    But with the rodok haris I still like the idea of a pop up ML and then taking the sniper unidron.

    As for the Jotum...well that is what the K1 is for lol.

    Kermit and the Dron Boys can carry enough gear to pretty much tackle anything your opponent can bring.
     
  14. Ursa

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    Im quite happy with the new rodok haris and the suryat changes, im testing one of this lists soon!

    Posible Someday
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)
    NEXUS Lieutenant Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    UNIDRON Plasma Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 24)
    UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    FRAACTA Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    RODOK (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    RODOK HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)

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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)
    NEXUS Lieutenant Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    UNIDRON Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    FRAACTA Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6
    RODOK (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    RODOK HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  15. Lesh'

    Lesh' Infinity LATVIA
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    @Ursa in first roster I'd swap Imetron from second group to Ikadron from the first, as there's still a chance that Imetron will scatter and you gonna lose it, and that group already has quite low amount of orders.
     
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