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So, let's talk about that Morat Update...

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by DaRedOne, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Honestly keep it civil please.
     
  2. toadchild

    toadchild EI Aspect

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    Even under the previous FAQ (which I strongly opposed), the Sogarat would have been unaffected. All that FAQ said was that a Charontid will fall unconscious to Shock ammo instead of going into NWI state. Not having access to NWI or Dogged, the Sogarat was unaffected.
     
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  3. derbrizon

    derbrizon Well-Known Member

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    I totally forgot bioimmunity let's you pick how you make your save. That's neat, I suppose. It came out of left field.
     
  4. TheDiceAbide

    TheDiceAbide Thank you for your compliance.
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    Four games in with the new MAF and I’m quite happy with the results.

    The Oznat, 3 Preta, Raktorak Red Fury link team for 65/1 has been working incredibly, adding a specialist and high burst weapon really go a long way here. I’ve also been enjoying the Kornak, Raktorak, Suryat Tactical awareness Haris quite a bit, generating 5 of their own orders.
     
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  5. Bohrdog

    Bohrdog Santathematics

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    The one thing I have learned most from this update is that I need more Raktorack models.
     
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  6. Nicklz

    Nicklz Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm, Ava 2 says not too many . Unless you insist on full WYSWYG (Is there even a red fury? )
     
  7. toadchild

    toadchild EI Aspect

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    Nope, just Combi (starter) and Shotgun (blister).
     
  8. derbrizon

    derbrizon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I kinda want ava3 raktorak now. :P used to think they were trash. Trashtorak. Now they're actually a pretty central part of MAF.
     
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  9. TheDiceAbide

    TheDiceAbide Thank you for your compliance.
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    I do hope they make a Red Fury Raktorak model, it’s been in nearly every one of my lists.
     
  10. Maksimas

    Maksimas Maxi

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    This is the best theoretical idea I could think of.
    P.S.: Could prolly ditch the slave drone to make the Rodok LT a Yaogat LT.

    [​IMG] Maxim's the name, making highly unreasonable single group lists is my game
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    [​IMG]10 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] RAICHO MULTI HMG + Heavy Shotgun, Mine Dispenser / . (2 | 94)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] RAICHO PILOT 2 Heavy Pistols, D-Charges, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SOGARAT (Full Auto L2) Feuerbach / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 67)
    [​IMG] MORAT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] MORAT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] MORAT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] MORAT Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    [​IMG] KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] RODOK Lieutenant Combi Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)

    4 SWC | 299 Points

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  11. toadchild

    toadchild EI Aspect

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    A 4-member link of Vanguards, but no Suryat or Anyat to bring them up to 5?
     
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  12. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Brisk antipodean

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    This would be my suggestion:

    Morat Aggression Force
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    [​IMG]7 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]5
    RAICHO MULTI HMG + Heavy Shotgun, Mine Dispenser / . (2 | 94)
    [​IMG] RAICHO PILOT 2 Heavy Pistols, D-Charges, Knife. ()
    SOGARAT (Full Auto L2) Feuerbach / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 67)
    KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)
    OZNAT Vulkan Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 20)
    RAKTORAK Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)

    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    If you wanted to really pare it back and have both major players with an order pool behind them, something like this could also be an option. I'm a bit less confident of it, though. DiceAbide has made an excellent case for the all-preta Oznat link for example:

    Morat Aggression Force
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]6
    RAICHO MULTI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 89)
    [​IMG] RAICHO PILOT 2 Heavy Pistols, D-Charges, Knife. ()
    OZNAT Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 18)
    RAKTORAK Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    SOGARAT (Full Auto L2) Feuerbach / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 67)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    MORAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  13. Maksimas

    Maksimas Maxi

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    Couldn't think of any way to practically drag them up to a five man, honestly.
     
  14. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    Death squad
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    YAOGAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 29)
    YAOGAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    YAOGAT Spitfire / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 32)
    RAKTORAK (NCO) Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    SOGARAT (Full Auto L2) Feuerbach / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 67)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4
    KURGAT (Operative Group) Mk12, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    RAKTORAK Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26)
    DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 21)
    DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    DĀTURAZI Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 20)

    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    Unfortunately this list spills into requiring two teams, but the core premise is an assault and advance team (the Datz and Kurgat) and the actual kill team, Big Datz link, Little Yaogat link and a big firepower + specialist NCO duo

    Functional redundancy
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    RAICHO MULTI HMG + Heavy Shotgun, Mine Dispenser / . (2 | 94)
    [​IMG] RAICHO PILOT 2 Heavy Pistols, D-Charges, Knife. ()
    RAICHO MULTI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 89)
    [​IMG] RAICHO PILOT 2 Heavy Pistols, D-Charges, Knife. ()
    DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    YAOGAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 29)
    OZNAT Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 18)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    RAKTORAK Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26)
    KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)

    5 SWC | 299 Points

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    This one started with two cool raichos and a vulcan shotgun Raktorak, probably still better to take the Oznat vulcan as it maintains the speed of the link, So i dropped one of the coochos down to a blandcho and swapped in a red fury to get some firepower advantage from that team at a range greater than "why are you so close to this team" in a list with that already had two faster heavy shotguns. I'm pretty sure this list is a terrible idea, on the otherhand it seems pretty funny.
     
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  15. Maksimas

    Maksimas Maxi

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    Since people are sharing lists all of a sudden...
    Here, a list with a very self explanatory title. Tried to make it be with as few purchases needed as possible.
    Could prolly take away the shotty Raktorak and just use the solo Oznat to minimise needed purchases even further.

    [​IMG] A list I might try if I ever started Morats
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    [​IMG] MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] RAKTORAK Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    [​IMG] SURYAT (Tactical Awareness) HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 48)
    [​IMG] SOGARAT (Full Auto L2) Feuerbach / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 67)
    [​IMG] RAKTORAK Combi Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] ZERAT Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] ZERAT MULTI Sniper Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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  16. Romulas

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    in the same boat, but still new with the monkeys and will hold out till after Feb (then might break out the tohaa for a couple months or dip into a 4 th faction that i've been collecting.... :) ). my main problem seems to be deployment but working on it.... and dice, don't matter how many successes i roll if my opponent succeeds his on a better roll...

    look forward to it, will need all the advice i can get... never used the soggy death squad but the duo seems promising with a raktorak backing him up...
     
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