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So it seems that Dire Foes were updated....

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by eciu, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Gotta move those new JSA starters...

    Wait, I actually agree with @Teslarod on something. This is crazy.
     
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  2. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    So heres the thing.

    Losing the lsg hurts. But the nanopulser is actually a great piece of kit for her.
    Weve always known the range band overlap on thw lsg and CR jas beena sore point for us. Now we have a tough somewhat choppy doc that sits right in the price point between the Tdoc and the Hdoc.

    With her nanopulser shes a fair hand at hunting camo as well, wip13 discovee s and int attacks ks something we dont normally get.

    Is she bland....yeah she is. But shes thoroughly workable now and she wasnt before at all
     
  3. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    Yeah, I'll miss the Light Shotgun as an option for my Fusilier Fireteam in NCA.

    And while no SWC, -1 pt and the Nanopulser are all nice she's still (by FAR) the most boring and uninspired of all the Dire Foes.

    Hunh... maybe.

    MAYBE.

    But let's just say that I'm not going to hold my breath.
     
  4. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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  5. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Thanks to this whole Uprising thing even salt is not ours anymore.

    Damn, CB is ready to really walk an extra mile for PanO.....
     
  6. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Wait, wut ?

    Srsly ?

    I can't even.....
     
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  7. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    No worries, Koni still is overpaying his Combi+Assault Pistol combo for whooping 4 pts.
     
  8. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    Wouldn't want consistency or inter-factional balance.

    That's FAR too much to expect.
     
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  9. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Yea, not that 2 other PanO profiles also do that....
     
  10. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Hate to burst any bubbles, shes still kind of useless. Overcosted for what she does. I'd honestly prefer if she was wip 15 or had Doctor+. Something to make her a much more superior doctor.

    Either that or make her WIP 12 and have more equipment/weapons so she can be more worth her cost.
     
  11. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    No, no, no. Cool stuff is reserved for StarCO. Hadn't you read the memo that now everyone has amazing doctor in HI links ?
     
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  12. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    [​IMG]

    *sighs*

    Yep, they did.
     
  13. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    LOL, meanwhile MO still has no KHD.
     
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  14. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    In HI oriented sectorial ? Who would even need that? Check Tohaa, 90% of their stuff is unhackable and they can still actively hunt enemy hackers xD

    On WIP14 xD xD xD
     
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  15. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    That is still as shitty a Profile as Bipandra is.
    That's a Tohaa for 30 points without a Symbiont who is neither a Kaeltar or Makaul.
    Tohaa get Sensor on 10 points Order Monkeys and Viral Rifles on much better Troops.
    All she does is protect Neema, Ectros and Gorgos for a hefty pricetag.

    Losing a point and gaining a Nanopulser does nothing to make Bipandra any sort of useful that much is certain. Heck I'd argue it's bad she can Link because you really want a Palbot and that screws the whole thing up again. If she just dropped to like 20 points we could at least run her as an expensive 6th Fusilier who can scratch MLs from the floor (in the possible scenario they don't die straight up).

    @eciu Assault Pistols are 3 on top of a Combi. And it's not why Konstantinos is bad. His hole kit starting with the Combirifle (+PH12, ARM2, CC16, CCW) is.

    Hardly worth mentioning. Have a rough time getting a linked Hospitaler Doc into btb with anything worth rezzing in his Link. Pretty much use him exclusively for button pushing and his Multirifle 4/5 games. Just make sure you kill the Doctor first or the HIs fully.
     
  16. yojamesbo

    yojamesbo purchaser of car seats

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    You guys don't need a KHD in MO, you've got +1 BS! :unicorn_face:
     
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  17. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    Like, I hear you, but at least she's INTERESTING.

    Expensive, sure, but it's a cool combo of tools on a unit which can pal up with two other buddies.

    Yeah, it's still just... 'meh.

    I mean, I'll use her.

    I used her before.

    But I'm a LONG WAY from overjoyed.
     
  18. yojamesbo

    yojamesbo purchaser of car seats

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    Obviously, this isn't the Tohaa forum, but I think it's worth noting the reaction over there to the Aelis changes has been generally positive. Toolkit plus Triad plus KHD plus decent stats means you'll be seeing more of her in the future.
     
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  19. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    OK now that the points system is out the fucking window (cf. Arigoto), and other factions are rocking super optimised mixed visor 5 man links out the ass, I think Teutons should straight up get smoke grenades without their cost being changed at all.
     
  20. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Actually on those few games where it wasn't that my Doc was a first link member to die (mostly due to my mistakes) he ressed quite a few people. Notable game was when Ninja KHD hacked Fersen to unconcious, slashed other Hospitaller in CC to unconcious, then his turn ended, my doc moved to res both of them and after reforming link back to 5 people they had killed damn ninja.

    Also sole presence of Doctor in link team forces your enemy to spend other orders to finish your unconcious guys.
     
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