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Smoke grenade ZoC ARO?

Discussion in '[Archived]: N4 Rules' started by QueensGambit, Jan 18, 2021.

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  1. HeadChime

    HeadChime Well-Known Member
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    Hey, unfortunately I just need to necro this thread. Post 1.2 there's a lot of talk again about the ZoC smoke ARO. A similar argument to the one we saw before, "a ZoC ARO is triggered which allows you to pre-emptively BS Attack. You then throw smoke because it doesn't require a target".

    I'm assuming that @ijw answer still stands - that the No LoF trait is needed for the smoke to resolve properly, without LoF to the model that triggered the ARO being achieved?

    Does this need revisiting @Mahtamori ? I can see the answer here isbquite clear but people don't seem to be aware of it and many are reading the rules such that you CAN smoke with a ZoC ARO.
     
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    @ijw 's answer was based on the "Zone of Control and AROs" rule on page 25. FAQ 1.2 contains an errata with a new rule titled "(Page 25) Zone of Control and AROs." The new rule repeats some of the text of the original rule, so it appears to be intended to replace the original rule. However, the new rule doesn't have the line that @ijw relied on as the reason you can't throw smoke without LoF to the active trooper. So unfortunately, I think it's correct to say that the ruling is out of date.

    If I were a TO, I would still rule that it can't be done, for three reasons. (1) @ijw 's comment up-thread that "balance-wise it would be horrific" still applies; (2) FAQ 1.2 is known to be awaiting corrections that have been delayed by CB staff illness; and (3) it just really seems like an oversight and not an intentional change to the rules.
     
    #42 QueensGambit, Feb 26, 2022
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    Yes, I do think this needs to be considered. It's already on my list, but I'm adding this thread as well so that people can see what others have thought and argued when they make their own minds up
     
    #43 Mahtamori, Feb 27, 2022
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