OK, it's most everyone's understanding that you normally only have one chance to declare an ARO, though Sixth Sense does allow you to declare Delay ARO. In the case of Combat Jumping troops, normal/HD+/DHD/EVO/White hackers must declare Hack Transport Aircraft much earlier in the resolution process, before the ADing trooper arrives on table and allows other AROs to be generated. As I am reading the process, and has been explained by @ijw , the hacker must declare HTA at that point, if they don't declare HTA they do not get a chance to declare an ARO when the ADing troop lands on-table. HTA or Nothing. How does this interact with Sixth Sense? Can a Securitate Hacker in a 5-man link team (or a Zhanying Agent Hacker all by herself) declare 'Delay ARO' at the time when Hack Transport Aircraft would have to be declared, forfeiting their chance to hack the transport aircraft in order to be able to declare a different ARO when the ADing trooper lands on-table? Also, can we get the clarification on the Hack Transport Aircraft ARO issue put into the next FAQ? Certain posters are refusing to accept anything not written in the FAQ.
Sixth Sense's delay wouldn't work with this, that much is clear. The question is if AD and Hack Transport Aircraft interact, AD being an exception to the normal ARO timing rules and Hack Transport Aircraft being an exception to AD itself, interact in such a way to allow a hacker to forgo Hack Transport Aircraft and instead Dodge, BS Attack, etc.
@Section9 Here ya go mate, sucks, but is what it is until CB says otherwise. Note this is supported by a previous palanka ruling as well https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/ad-combat-jump-and-valid-aros-from-hackers.25491/
Not anymore mate, would you care anyway? Lets be honest, you wouldnt. Ill let others explain it to sec9, either that or he could listen too you for all I care, might be at least 1 person that does for once
You can delay with SS (using lvl 1) only if your opponent is in your ZoC . In your scenario, does your oponnent declare his landing in your ZoC ? If yes, I would say SS allows you to delay. No reason why you could not.
No, because the trooper hasn't actually arrived until after the PH Roll: "The result of the Dispersion Roll determines the troop's effective deployment location. AROs are generated taking only that location into account.".
I think I pasted that one, and the source (now lost) in this forum, in the AD thread back in the day. No: you have to Declare Aro when the AD order is declared (first chance), the enemy trooper is not on the table yet, so he's outside of the ZoC, meaning no SS. Once the AD trooper touches down definitely (either PH roll success, or dispersion having been resolved), then, if the trooper is falling on top of one or more of your SS2 troopers, they can dodge without the -3 from not seeing the source even if he falls where they don't have the 180º LoF, but that is all.
Yes in the event that a trooper with Explode LX uses that skill a trooper with SSL2 gets to Dodge on flats. However, AD outside of LOF on its own doesn't allow a Dodge even by troopers with SSL1. The topic being discussed was the second situation, not the former.
This thread comes from an IA thread that was talking about dropping a Liu Xing on an enemy Hacker, so I'm pretty sure that's what xagroth was referring to with "then, if the trooper is falling on top of one or more of your SS2 troopers".
Why wouldn't a Sixth Sense trooper be able to declare Dodge or Engage? They're being attacked in their ZoC; it's just like being shot in the back.
That's a good policy. It helps ensure we're all playing the same game. Which is extremely important in competitive play. CB can get to FAQ'ing or write better rules to improve the situation.
Even after I made it explicit that I wasn't assuming that a general discussion about AD was actually discussing Explode LX?
