Sixth sense doesn't allow you to ignore Total Cover, it allows you to respond to attacks, even if your don’t have the correct facing. That’s why you can shoot back when someone shoots you from behind, but can’t shoot back with your sniper against the remote that’s using guided missiles against you... unless we have finally found a way to bend bullets.
Ok we know for a fact that Sixth Sense will not grant you LoF against the attacking model. Maybe this is the intended effect but it is not the RAW effect. So here is the effect of Total Cover. Effects Troopers cannot declare BS Attacks with weapons, Special Skills or pieces of Equipment that require LoF against a target in Total Cover. And here is the effect of Sixth Sense EFFECTS Allows the user to respond with a Face to Face Roll to Attacks (and only Attacks) directed at him by an enemy inside his Zone of Control, even without LoF to the attacker and regardless the facing of the user. So if you require LoF then total cover stops the attack, Sixth Sense makes it so if you are attacked then you don't need LoF. Maybe the wording on sixth sense should be changed to something like "You may attempt to draw LoF from your base regardless of facing or zero vis zones if attacked. But I guess that is not really here or there. The important question, anyone think that if my Ninja walks into base to base to a model with 6th sense from behind and CC's that the Model can't respond with a BS attack or are we all in agreement that they can BS attack. I don't think smoke would have any effect on this outcome
Yep, it really comes down to exactly how you parse "...outside his LoF and regardless the facing of the user". My reading is "you can declare a skill that requires LoF as your ARO and you get to ignore your facing for that skill resolution", but it's not the only way. This is the third version of the Sixth Sense wording and it still causes problems.
I am pretty sure you have the right intention with 6th sense. If they worded it as Allows the user to respond with a Face to Face Roll to Attacks (and only Attacks) directed at him by an enemy inside his Zone of Control, regardless the facing of the user. Would fix the issue. However adding in "even without LoF to the attacker and regardless" is what messes it up. I think with this in mind the RAW lets you shoot that smart missile but a TO is never going to allow it. it is a simple fix imo. However it is confirmed that RAW/RAI you are allowed to shoot someone who try's to CC you from behind if you have 6th sense correct?
There doesn't seem to be a reason to add "even without LoF" to this unless they were specifically trying to address zero vis zones. Otherwise the "regardless of the facing of the user" part would be sufficient to cover all the options where that isn't an issue. Clearly it isn't written well, but I think based on that they call it out, the intent has to be that if you have SS, you can ARO through the zero vis zone when a cc unit reaches base to base. The bullet bending stuff I think obviously isn't intended.
You needed that clause in 2nd edition to dodge guided/speculative shots. Dodge requires LoF and there previously wasn't a rule that allowed you to dodge when hit by a template out of LoF.
That was n2 thoughh. Arguing it is a holdover for what is basically a new game with few relic rules isnt the strongest argument
I like how every thread involving Sixth Sense winds up as a dumpster fire. Probably needs a rewrite sooner rather than later.
This was my thinking as well. Perhaps if they just added a sentence afterwards that read: Allows the user to respond with a Face to Face Roll to Attacks (and only Attacks) directed at him by an enemy inside his Zone of Control, even without LoF to the attacker and regardless the facing of the user. However, this special rule cannot be used against an enemy in Total Cover, unless the response itself would be allowed without the effects of Sixth Sense. How does that look?
Or just trusted other rules to provide a model with the opportunity to dodge and not do something silly like allow a non-template weapon to Speculative Fire or otherwise No LOF shoot. (Jammer for all its iffiness would always allow a Reset) Trusting the integrity of other rules would allow then to set Sixth Sense to simply ignore facing and any facing or ZVZ negative MODs.
Yeah, whichever it is. As long as it's clear. Right now it's not clear if you can retaliate through smoke clouds in some situations, or shoot through intervening models (who block LoF but don't provide total cover).
