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Show of Force and Looting and Sabotaging with VIRD

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Snowball, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. Snowball

    Snowball Well-Known Member

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    Hey all, so I recently picked up VIRD and was wondering what your thoughts were for the missions show of force and looting and sabotaging with them.

    I want to take the cutter over the squallo, but I'd hate to deploy it revealed to make it the datatracker and take away the main strength of the tag. Below is a list I made for it. My thought was to maybe make the machinist the datatracker and keep it safe till turn 3 to push up and get those extra points in the mission. Echo bravo is basically there to try and shut down opposing tags with the wild parrot and the zulu marksman rifle as an extra attack piece. Fort kick-ass (the kamau link) does its defensive stuff lol.

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    [​IMG]10
    CUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    KAMAU Heavy Rocket Launcher, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    ECHO-BRAVO Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, WildParrot / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    ZULU-COBRA (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    MACHINIST (Varuna Div.) (CH: Mimetism, Stealth, Aquatic Terrain) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    LaS has never been my mission, but I dont want to give up on it lol. Seems like VIRDs only attack options for the AC2 are patsy and the machinist for their D charges, or the tags anti material fists for the mission. Coming from Tunguska it seems like it would be a bit easier with patsy in a haris with a couple of kamau, but thats as far as I can think, so id love to see what your thoughts are on this mission with VIRD. below is a list Im thinking of running for the mission, as well as other missions as well.

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    KAMAU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 28)
    KAMAU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    PATSY GARNETT Submachine Gun, Nimbus Plus Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    KAMAU Heavy Rocket Launcher, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    ZULU-COBRA Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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    And as a side note, what are the thoughts about the Orc HMG? Its such an awesome model that I want to use it somehow but no idea how to build a list around it. Thanks all! xoxoxo
     
  2. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant
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    I'd try to include one Sensor + Jammer ZC in both lists. I think they're a really crucial unit for how VIRD functions, both for discovering hostile Camo, as well as denying area. Otherwise, you really don't have a great way of stopping an enemy from going where they want to go, especially if you lose the Kamau MSV2.

    As for the ORC HMG, it's a capable Datatracker. Kamau really make it look overpriced, but it can deliver decent results on the table.
     
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  3. Snowball

    Snowball Well-Known Member

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    I’m just starting to realize the strength of the sensor ZC. Especially with triangulated fire. I traded the EB in the cutter list for one and downgraded the machinist. Made the spitfire one in the second list as well and upgraded the two SMM helots to LRL’s. Excited to try these things out!
     
  4. yoink101

    yoink101 Well-Known Member

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    I second @barakiel recommending the sensor Zulu. He’s too good not to bring. I’d squeeze the points in to upgrade the marksman rifle in the first list, the spitfire in the second. I think the khd is a good one to bring as well.

    For looting and sabotage, don’t forget about the montesa. DA ccw, mimetism, and 8-4 movement means he can get there and put it down if you can clear the way. I’d you don’t need a specialist, the mulsti rifle profile can gunfight fairly well by catching models out of cover. I prefer the higher burst of the rifle to the boarding shotgun, although he can close range enough to make the shotgun worthwhile.

    I like the ORC hmg as a data tracker in some missions. I like it as an alternative to the otherwise single wound army. I don’t think he’s a better choice than the kamau hmg though.
     
  5. Goorie

    Goorie Well-Known Member

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    Maybe something like this for show force? A Fusi ML is not a Kamau HRL but it'll perform OK IMHO. That change gives you enough space for the ZC "tres amigos" to show.

    What I don't know is if it's worth to take the Fusi FO... This link is not supposed to get out of the rooftop and you are changing a 33% chance to find the LT to a 50%. On another hand you may need him in some corner cases. Anyway, we can always trick the opponent and use a ZC LT.

    Show Force
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    [​IMG]10
    CUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    ZULU-COBRA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Jammer / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    ZULU-COBRA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Jammer / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    MACHINIST (Varuna Div.) (CH: Mimetism, Stealth, Aquatic Terrain) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  6. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    It's been a long time since I provoked a "well, that's just bullshit" from a opponent.

    Triangulated Fire with an Assault Pistol onto a Noctifier from a Sensor/Jammer Zulu Cobra got that response in my game last Tuesday.

    A game which is likely to be my last for a while now.
     
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  7. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant
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    Awwww, his TO missile didn't get to kill all the things, imagine my sympathy :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
     
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    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    To be fair, if you don't know the Zulu Cobra profiles well then Triangulated Fire from a Camo marker is quite the surprise.

    Not that I think he'd have been better off with different choices, even discovered the outcome would have been the same.