So I'm thinking about taking Shasvastii to the Interplanetario. There are several reasons, but mostly I both love them and enjoy playing weird, unexpected things even if they are demonstrably mechanically sucky. Also I got a fully-painted army of them (plus a few Onyx units) for really cheap, and it will be my only army when I go back to the States this summer so I should be decently practiced by Vigo-time. I could use your advice on whether the plan and list below look viable, Combined generals (and the few of you out there who are crazy enough to play SEF itself). As far as I can tell, the things that do -not- suck in SEF (are par for points-to-power versus other armies' units) are the Shrouded, the Sphinx, Malignos AHDs, Noctifers, and maaaaaybe Gwailo links with Hasht at the head. Is that fairly accurate? Then we have the standard Combined remotes... especially the Q-drones, E-drone, and Ikadrons. Oh, and Bit and Kiss. Those are all great values. I wish I could get two M-drones to make up for the lack of visors, too. So a plan formed in my alien frog/spore brain to try out a list that uses those remotes well. Spoiler: SEF 300 BotRush List spoilered SEF 300 BotRush ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 SHROUDED Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 30) SHROUDED (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) SHROUDED (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26) Q-DRONE Plasma Rifle / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) ASWANG Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26) GROUP 2 4 Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) HAIDUK Smart MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 23) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army A team of 4 remotes using Coordinated Order could move up to get into range for either regular facepunching (plasma Q-drones are remarkably nasty with Marksmanship and the HMG one gives a ranged attack option), Sat-Lock, or some good hack attacks. In between forward moves, they use the TR bots, Ikadron flamers, and some repeater coverage to make wherever they are difficult to assault. Meanwhile the Shrouded are there to push buttons on the offensive, or be mine-dropping speedbumps if I get rushed. I wish I could fit 4 in. And with the EVO program that boost remotes with repeater to B2 AROs plus a few Shrouded speedbumps, I hope this list could survive going second pretty well. I threw in a Smart Sniper as another option, both for ARO and for attacking camo things that have been detected and targeted via Sat-Lock (or annoying Suppressive Fire dudes if my Ikadrons are already dead). I really like the look of the hacking options: Exile give the remote attack group another option vs. links, if they can get close enough to get the hack out. So, does that sound vaguely doable, or would a decent updated army with actually-viable linkteams and the like take this list to pieces?