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Shas update suggestions

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by Magno, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I’ve done Shas & Hungries in the Vanilla and they work pretty well. The lack of smoke hurt though ☹ . I want to find some sort of proxy for Hungries. Hate the existing ones. Worse than the old ones!

    Can you imagine Hungries with Protheon!?

    Now that we have Ker-nau I'd do something like this.

    [​IMG] Combined Army
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]6 [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    [​IMG] PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    [​IMG] PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    [​IMG] PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    [​IMG] PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    [​IMG] PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Missile Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] SEED-SOLDIER (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] ASWANG Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] SPECULO KILLER Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] GWAILO (X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 23)
    [​IMG] SHROUDED (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] SHROUDED (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  2. Coliflor-Shasvastii

    Coliflor-Shasvastii New Member

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    A friend of mine uses Tyranid hormagaunt models for his hungries
     
  3. Recruit-3D

    Recruit-3D Active Member

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    I was wondering today if Metachemistry would be a suitable update for Shasvastii. Whats your opinion?
     
  4. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Here's the replacement I'm using for Hungries! A new use for all of my Exrah!

    [​IMG]


    I agree Metachemistry would be good. But I think their own version of it would be better. But I hate the idea of adding another layer of rules.
     
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  5. Skjarr

    Skjarr EI Mouthpiece

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    So with MRRF resculpts getting canned indefinitely, where does this leave Shasvaasti?
    Sadly it wouldn't surprise me if the same were to happen given the large amount of work required to resculpt the range.
     
  6. gamma ray

    gamma ray Well-Known Member
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    The last news from CB was that they're going to start redesigning Shas after Interplanetary. I think it was a recently as the LVO.
     
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  7. Skjarr

    Skjarr EI Mouthpiece

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    Well that is reassuring.
     
  8. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Same here. I don't want them to go the way of the Exrah. I love me little frog...thingy men...creatures. Whatever, love them.
     
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  9. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
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    I think Shasvastii have too potent of a theme to cut them out.
     
  10. boquepasha

    boquepasha ALEPH is love, ALEPH is life, ALEPH is your friend

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    Also, cutting out shasvastii would mean no speculo killer, which is something very CA defining both fluffwise and on the table.
     
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  11. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Something I thought of doing in its own thread but it’s probably fine here. In the Shasvastii sectoral, I think as of now, Shasvastii has gotten a HUGE boon by the inclusion of the EVO Hacker REM and Bitt & Kiss. Before we had to take expensive hackers, or not really effective hackers. Or it was just using a hacker profile for something I’d rather use them for. Like Nocitifer missile instead of the hacker or Shrouded FO. The only thing that could be better is to have deployable repeaters. But I think Shasvastii sectoral is actually something that can be done in ITS and do okay.
     
  12. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    B&K have deployable repeaters... well Bit does, anyway.
     
  13. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    I've heard scuttlebutt that shas rules are mostly figured out they're just waiting on sculpts.
     
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  14. Grimm

    Grimm New Member

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    I am curious to see what direction they have taken the sectorial. My first purchases were Shas models but ended up selling them since they did not seem newb friendly. Hoping the new sculpts retain their alien feel.
     
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  15. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    You would have thought that about the Oniwaban/Kitsune and Yu Jing tho.
     
  16. Magno

    Magno Well-Known Member
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    I played Shas in ITS the last year a decent amount. They aren't weak, they are just too situational. If I face MSVs and direct template weapons, Shas is still too fragile to stand up to that.
     
  17. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you there! That's one of the reasons the last few games I've actually been going with less camo and more non-camo troops, especially Gwailo links. The list below I used to good effect in Deadly Dance.

    But I think now because of B&K, and EVO, we can actually do that! Shasvastii had a really hard time before for especially specialist games. I found I spend so much on my specialists that I couldn't take firepower. We now have two great specialists for a even better price.

    [​IMG] Shasvastii Expeditionary Force
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] GWAILO Lieutenant Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] GWAILO MULTI Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] GWAILO (X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 23)
    [​IMG] E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] ASWANG Combi Rifle, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] SPECULO KILLER Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] SHROUDED Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Missile Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    BTW, I've learned to love a Shrouded with Boarding Shotgun. Gotta love being on top of link first turn and unloading with a Surprise shot, +6 range, camo, etc!
     
  18. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    Rather partial to a hidden deployment Malignos BSG personally, if you can place it right to react to a second movement it's a cracking booby trap for midfield objectives.
     
  19. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I like the Malignos but can hardly ever afford it. I've found the Shrouded does just as good for much less points.

    As others have mentioned too, I’d really like the Seed Soldiers to be changed but It doesn’t even need to be a huge change. I’d like for the rule for Seed Embryo (Capsule) to be changed to allow getting out to be a free movement similar to Prone. Other than that, my wish list would be more profiles of Equipment and Weapons, HMG, Missile, Hacker, etc.
     
    #99 Space Ranger, Jun 12, 2018
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  20. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I realized something I'd like changed on the playing on the weekend. They need to change the Gwailo, and perhaps the Caliban, to Light Infantry and 4-4 move, or make them ARM 3. I'd even take a reduction of ARM to 1 if it would give them a better move. The nano screen at least making up for it a little bit. My complaint comes from trying to have them with Sheskin in a link. She has a 6-4 move so they can't keep up! It's not like she can link up with Seed Soldiers that are stuck in a pod for the first turn! The only other options is Gwailo or Caliban, both with Move of 4-2.