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September>December 2024: Nuclear winter has struck, leaving room for the N5

Discussion in 'News' started by Wizzy, Aug 12, 2024.

  1. Nimlothautle

    Nimlothautle Well-Known Member

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    All of the Tohaa parts of Spiral corps were already in Tohaa, but with purposefully reduced AVA and load out options. I hope it's not a direct port of N4 Tohaa, so that I can at least play my spiral corps stuff until they are ready to fully rebalance and update Tohaa. At this pont Tohaa is so out of step with modern infinity, there isn't another S5 model to proxy my excess Keil-sanns as.
     
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  2. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Yeah! I didn't see the +1 B on the first two profiles. That's pretty spicy viral!

    Good points. Zhanying in ISS has it too but only with a breaker combi and BSG. I'm hoping they add it to other profles. Almost no Zhanying were ever taken other than Hacker and Madtrap.

    I like the Bangbomb. It doesn't seem too complicated to me.
     
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  3. Child9

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    And because it has 2 VIT and ARM6 in cover, he can take more risks using triangulated fire, unlike the other fragile 1HP profiles that usually have that skill... The more I look at it, the more I like it. Let's see how it fits in that N5 environment, but considering the minis are gorgeous, I'd love to get an excuse to field it more often.
     
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  4. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    I feel looking at the profile, my old Shock Marksman will become a Thunderbolt. Improved Damage and Burst 4 Viral Pistols seem superior to drop bears. But either way, it gives some nice choices!

    Edit: I look forward to Triangulate Fire Burst 4 Viral Pistols from Hidden Deployment at 23"!
     
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  5. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Surprise attack will now work against fireteams, correct?
     
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  6. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Yes.

    Unless they get a native skill (Combat Sense or something) that negates it. But it is no longer a part of the 6th Sense (which a Fireteam big enough still grants).
     
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  7. Abrilete

    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    Seems like Tohaa only lost access to half a dozen Mercenary troopers, like Aida Swanson, the Krakot Renegades, the Beastshunter, and such.
    Of course it remains to be seen what happens to the specific profiles and some unique Tohaa rules like Symbiomates/Symbiobombs or the Pheroware Tactics.
     
  8. Abrilete

    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    EDIT: Fuck, we lost the Kiuutan.
     
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  9. Crusader

    Crusader HI connoisseur

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    It seems everyone forgot poor Cranerank :( . BS 13 MULTI Rifle with ARM4 W2 body.
     
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  10. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I forgot about him when I was playing ISS! lol. It's nice but would be better on the spitfire.

    Edit: I hope that now we need to wait longer, they come out with a few more of these N4 to N5 changes. They will keep the hype up.
     
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  11. SpectralOwl

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    Why would you remember it in ISS? I used Sensor every now and then back in N3, but ISS is flush with MSV2 and you have Smoke for everything else.
     
  12. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    Copied from discord

    Strange. A profile that has to be activated and last only one round ... why not just give the good one and finish?

    Also intereszing: EM carbine, Thunderbolt with B3+1 in FT and BTS imm
     
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  13. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    Where do you see it Transformation only lasting a round?

    On the profile, I am surprised the Base profile doesn't have Holomask as it looks like a surprise unit. But it seems like it gets a nice discount for having two profiles. Str also will make it it easy to recover if necessary.
     
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  14. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    The quote I copied: you transform during that turn

    I am nit sure we need more fancy stuff to make units cheaper. I thought N5 was about polishing not adding. And then, you want to s3nd the switcher into CC ... and fail your WIP :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  15. Wizzy

    Wizzy Well-Known Member

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    Also there is this preview :


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    Wizzy Well-Known Member

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  17. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I think it’s cool but doesn’t feel Nomad to me. I keep seeing in my head a Power Ranger after they change form a normie to superhero. So JSA it should be! Heennshiin!
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    So, the ammo still goes against BTS but ignores anything else. Breaker doesn’t half the BTS, E/M is not 2 rolls and half. Etc.

    At least they still need to make a roll and BTS is only 0 or 3.
     
  18. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I'm saying fake. Unless they are changing Plasma, it's going to be over the top. Up two four blast templates hitting with BS15 and then 4 ARM and 4 BTS saves for everyone under it. His points should be in the 70s with everything he has. ARM4 with Nanoshield? This is better than most TAGs.
     
  19. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    The pricing is what I would point to for its fakeness. Way too cheap, regardless of weapons based on what we have already seen for n5.

    Right, but I interpret that as you Transform that turn, not JUST for that turn. At least in N4, Transmutation does not have a time limit (https://infinitythewiki.com/Transmutation?version=n4).
    The interesting thing is why have it take a WIP check versus being Auto like Su-Jain or RoadBot? Maybe to be cheaper? And it is a one way transformation.
     
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  20. TenNoBushi

    TenNoBushi Well-Known Member

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    The layout is inconsistent with the new profiles presented so far.
    It lacks the faction and sectorial(s) logo on the upper right.
    The postioning of "Order/Cube/Hackable" is wrong (the Cube logo should be first on top).
     
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