Just out of curiousity, how do you run your force? 1- Lots of camo 2- Lots of troops 3- Combo of both 1 and 2.
I usually play with 13 regular orders and at least 10 camo marker (2 spetsnaz, 1 or 2 TH, 2 chasseur FO, 1 Foxtrot + 1 to 3 more SK (hardcase, scout BS)), more if possible
I use camo in every list, but I have been playing a lot of single combat groups lately. I have a tendency to slow play and over-think, so I limit the amount of orders I need to handle in a game, and it has the pleasant side effect of making my list immune to the first turn order reduction.
I know this might not apply to you, but as a frequent USAr player I tend to run about 15 - 18 orders. I'll try and have 1-2 Foxtrot FO, and a Hardcase if possible. It usually ends up being about 4 camo tokens, but I have played up to 6-8. USAr's camo choices though, in my opinion, are less optimal than vanilla. You get a lot more value out of running some of the bike models, the Grunt link, or a harris so there ends up being less camo overall.
As a CHA collector, I find my list is 12 Regular, 2 Irregular, and 1 Ex Impetuous. Around 4 camo tokens.
I do both. This is my standard tournament list and I yet have to lose a game with it: Vanilla Specialists ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20) CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20) GRUNT Heavy Flamethrower, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) GRUNT Heavy Flamethrower, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FOXTROT (Forward Observer) Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) FOXTROT (Forward Observer) Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) FOXTROT (Forward Observer) Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) SPETSNAZ (CH: Ambush Camouflage) Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 34) VETERAN KAZAK AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 47) GROUP 2 7 UXÍA McNEILL (Covert Action) (CH: Limited Camouflage, Superior Infiltration, Specialist Operative) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / 2 Assault Pistols, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 27) SPETSNAZ (CH: Ambush Camouflage) HMG / Pistol, CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 38) VOLUNTEER Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 6) VOLUNTEER Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 6) LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) LINE KAZAK Lieutenant Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army The alternative setup drops the Sniper Spetsnaz and adds a Dog Warrior and an Irmadinho.
Under normal circumstances I tend to combine camo and order spamming. In case the mission is killy I tend to forgo order spamming and concentrate on fielding camo en masse. (Still working with two groups and at least 15 orders...)
Awesome stuff guys :) Still trying to find my balance. But after some suggestions from other players, I think I may have a solution to the problem...hopefully it works