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Return of the Murder Monkeys

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by DaRedOne, Sep 18, 2020.

  1. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    The new Daturazi, look to be promising. Im so torn, do I get back into MAF or do I go JSA first, I know either way I'll get my CC fix and they both fight for honor...
     
  2. Melkhior

    Melkhior Doing filthy things for EI

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    Looking forward to see, how will N4 MAF work. Right now I like what we saw.

    Only sad thing is that MAF will have only 1 new unit, when corregidor have 3 new units and new character. I was expecting more than 1 new unit.

    Odesláno z mého Mi 9T Pro pomocí Tapatalk
     
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  3. Disko King

    Disko King Well-Known Member

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    You can't rly go wrong with 20pts Domaru and 18-19pts Tankos :D, 8 HI for like 160pts :D
     
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  4. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    The leak indicating that Rasyats pick up Van Zant's deployment skill seems like a big deal to me.
     
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  5. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    I'm not going to entertain discussing the leaks because there's a chance some of that stuff doesn't actually make to the game, so being hyped for it is pointless.

    However, I think morats getting even one new unit is already pretty great. It shows that CB has not forget about the monkeys and that they will continue to get some love.

    That's all I ask, and I like what I've seen so far. Can't wait to dig my teeth into the real N4 profiles.
     
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  6. tartopom

    tartopom Well-Known Member
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    Maybe the Gatukat is the name of the Drone and Taryot the name given to the Pilot ?

    @DaRedOne One week... We just have to hold one week. One looong week. :muscle:
     
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  7. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Your emphasis mirrors the actual seriousness of the thing :grin::joy:
     
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  8. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    The option to even take the drop suit is a big thing for MAF since otherwise that gap in your list always HAD to be a Rasyat. Also a drop in medic with a shotgun is a big thing, since the paramedic penalty is being removed and models will get back up on phys a paramedic is a good option for MAF and removes some of the reliance on the non morat Dr boobworm MD/MEng. If Evos still give you a standard +3 to AD then there is some great synergy there to pop assisted fire on to a dropsuit. equally with access to an attack REM piece like this you're more likely to get the chance to pull off test run, if have a drop medic you can also get your datz back up which is potentially experimental drug as well and a drop specialist has obvious mid or back field button pushing capability without having to resort to a Zerat.

    Non specialist profiles you have the close to disposable shotgun or a <30pt red fury that can enter stage left to remove those enemy prepared positions you'd otherwise just have to pitched battle your way through.
     
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  9. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
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    On a side note, it looks like in N4 I'll part with my PanO armies, and will look to MAF for my "brick in the face" gameplay needs. I must say that I like how nicely Taryot and <rumoured> Rasyat mesh together. Other MAF changes look solid as well.
     
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  10. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    I might go back to full MAF for a while. I've been having fun with Vanilla CA, but given there's a realistic possibility a dual raicho list will actually be doable and fun in N4, I might run MAF again.

    Looking at current costs, the list below would be fun to run:
    Morat Aggression Force
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]5
    RAICHO MULTI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 89)
    [​IMG] RAICHO PILOT 2 Heavy Pistols, D-Charges, Knife. ()
    RAICHO MULTI HMG + Heavy Shotgun, Mine Dispenser / . (2 | 94)
    [​IMG] RAICHO PILOT 2 Heavy Pistols, D-Charges, Knife. ()
    OZNAT Vulkan Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 20)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    ANYAT K1 Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, Smoke Grenades, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID (Journalist L1) Submachine Gun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    RODOK Lieutenant Combi Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)

    4 SWC | 298 Points

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    But we know for a fact TAGs are getting a discount, so it might be possible to squeeze in a couple raktoraks or upgrade that lieutenant to something that bites harder. Fun times.
     
  11. Reece

    Reece EI Aspect
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    I do own two Raichos... I'm about 80% sure they'll both hit the table. ;)
     
  12. Jetjagaa

    Jetjagaa Member

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    This—If there's enough of a discount that you can get 10 orders, dual Raichos, and exclusively Morat units with fun flexibility, MAF is going to be my N4 go to.
     
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  13. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    Double raicho is the only way to play. Last event I went to was 3 Raichos over 2 lists. I lost but I definitely enjoyed myself!
     
  14. tartopom

    tartopom Well-Known Member
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    @DaRedOne here's my stupid list for the moment. As you see, i'm a no brainer and really don't care about anything.

    6 minis, 9 orders including +1 from Kornak and 2 tactical awareness ^^

    Zerat Red Fury is only here to start the game infiltrated and on suppressive fire with command token ^^

    Edit : Note that the Flamethrower Raicho will become Heavy Rocket Launcher

    Anticipating N4
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    KORNAK Lieutenant Mk-12, Lance-flammes Léger / Pistolet, Arme CC DA. (0 | 41)
    RAICHO Mitrailleuse MULTI + Lance-flammes Lourd / . (2 | 89)
    [​IMG] PILOTE DE RAICHO Pistolet, Couteau. ()
    ANYAT Fusil Combi K1, Chain-colt, Grenades Fumigènes, Grenades E/M / Pistolet, Couteau. (0 | 25)
    RAICHO Mitrailleuse MULTI + Fusil à Pompe Lourd, Disperseur de Mines / . (2 | 94)
    [​IMG] PILOTE DE RAICHO Pistolet, Couteau. ()
    RAKTORAK Fusil à Pompe Vulkan / Pistolet, Couteau. (0 | 22)
    ZERAT Red Fury, Mines Antipersonnel / Pistolet, Couteau. (0.5 | 25)

    4.5 CAP | 296 Points

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  15. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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  16. WiT?

    WiT? Well-Known Member

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    Jeez, dual Raicho is looking kind of legitimate. The Raicho @ cheap order core sets you back just 217 points. You can run a weak second group or swap the Gaki's for stronger stuff.

    Raicho HRL (MULTI HMG, HRL) 72 / 1.5
    Raicho NCO (MULTI HMG, HFT) 76 / 2
    Morat LT (Combi) or Datz CHAIN (Chain+1B, Grenade, Smoke) 14 or Krakot
    Gaki
    4
    Gaki 4
    Gaki 4
    Preta 7
    Oznat (Combi+LSGL) 18
    Ikadron (LFT+1B, Flash) 9
    Ikadron (LFT+1B, Flash) 9
    =217

    I'm a bit rusty with regards to supporting a TAG, usually don't play TAGs or go balls deep with no engineers and stuff, but a Limited Insertion, Dual Raicho army with support could look like this;

    Raicho HRL (MULTI HMG, HRL) 72 / 1.5
    Raicho NCO (MULTI HMG, HFT) 76 / 2
    Kornak LTL2 (Mk12, LFT, Strategos1 45
    Datz CHAIN (Chain+1B, Grenade, Smoke) 14 or Krakot
    Medtech + Slave
    25
    Preta 7
    Preta 7
    Oznat (Combi+LSGL) 18
    Zerat KHD (Combi,LFT) 27
    Ikadron (LFT+1B, Flash) 9
    =300

    When you can cheese out orders past 10, I feel thats when limited insertion is worth it. The NCO isn't really useful but I like my HFT more than two TAGs without close in weapons. With how much oblivion there will be, Veteran is legit, and the Zerat can help clear a path for the TAGs through a hacker midfield. With the price cuts and sticking to 10 models, I was able to trade out some gaki for decent models - not the biggest fan of the all in gaki link, Pretas are much much better. Could be worth cutting someplace to get at least one mine dispenser to fortify a position against close attacks.

    Dunno if its good, but its good enough to consider, where I couldn't really say the same for the same list with a 32 point hike

    Also, took all my willpower not to turn this into a Rasyat list midway. That thing is a total boss now
     
  17. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    After you start towing useful scoring units (that don't have to pop put to do that) and/or smoke along with your TAG, it is difficult to go back to doing things any other way. I can't imagine how cool it must be to be able to BYO Engineer a la Cordelia in Druze.

    Also Combat Jump Paramedics have always been handy: Now that you guys have a good one plus nice fighty Engineer Kurgats, I can't see why you'd take Dr. Worm unless you are low on points.
     
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  18. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    In fairness you'll still probably want Dr Boobworm MD since he is the classified objectives master and his servants can both weld the troops back together and put plasters on the Raicho in a furious barrage of failed but potentially re-rollable WIP checks, which is probably how the Taryots got like that in the first place.
     
  19. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    My Meditech is even in Betrayal:
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  20. Jetjagaa

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    :tada: These Raicho profiles are spicy:tada: Screenshot_20200925-073513.jpg
     
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